Posted on 03/07/2011 7:13:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Welfare reform in the 90s did away with most of the noxious programs that you are thinking of. As a result, the chronically indigent are often reliant on social security, and I ain’t talking about the old folks.
I’m not sure what programs you are talking about that were done away with. There are a lot of programs that could be cut now.
For example, let’s cut giving teenagers free housing, furniture, medical care, food, cars, cell phones and gas cards. Oh yes, let’s cut AAA, car insurance, free calls to Mexico and food stamps.
Section 8 and food stamps are a drop in the bucket compared to Socialist Security and Medicare. There is no "free car program', despite urban legends to the contrary.
The greatest fraud ever FORCED on “free people”. Built on the backs of dead Americans.
Urban legend you say? Clemenza, you must still be reading the New York Times.
Check this out:
"Gov. Deval Patrick’s free wheels for welfare recipients program is revving up despite the stalled economy, as the keys to donated cars loaded with state-funded insurance, repairs and even AAA membership are handed out to get them to work. But the program – fueled by a funding boost despite the state’s fiscal crash – allows those who end up back on welfare to keep the cars anyway.
The state pays for the car’s insurance, inspection, excise tax, title, registration, repairs and a AAA membership for one year at a total cost of roughly $6,000 per car.
http://www.ihatethemedia.com/massachusetts-free-cars-for-poor
They get free and subsidized housing, free cell phones and free minutes including foreign calls. You don't have to be a citizen to get on this gravy train. Ask Aunt Zetuni and Uncle Obama (the other Obama relative here illegally that the liberal media won't talk about.)
The liberal press would like us to believe that these giveaways are all urban legend but they are not. Unwed pregnant moms are still hitting the jackpot each time they have another child.
That’s an interesting concept and may well happen.
Good analysis.
I wonder what will be defined as “earnings”?
If nothing else it will pretty much guarantee some low end jobs opening up because nobody will want to be working at a low paying job that jumps them into a SS killing tax bracket.
Glad my post retirement “job” is in the underground economy.
My example would be wrong on details. I only meant that as SS becomes bankrupt, payments will be scaled back until only the poorest will get their full amount from their benefit formula, and this will rapidly fall off as you have more income or savings, until quickly you get nothing or get to keep nothing.
I was just using a concrete example to illustrate a concept. I have savings and expect a good pension. I will be considered too rich to collect much or any SS payments, because there will be no choice. Those with savings and income are not going to riot in the streets, so they will be impacted, as usual. Those who are destitute will riot in the streets, so they will be rewarded with full payments.
The tragedy here is, once again, if you worked your butt off your entire life and saved for the future, you get screwed. If you lived up to your eyeballs in debt to live a lavish life of fun and games and saved nothing for retirement, you get rewarded for it. It is just like the bailouts. It is ant and grasshopper.
In modern America, you get punished for being responsible but you get rewarded for being irresponsible. And you know what they say, you get more of what you subsidize.
AFDC was abolished, which is one of the reasons why so many poor blacks have abortions these days relative to 20-30 years ago (cant afford the babies anymore). The largest program in terms of federal transfers to the indigent is social security.
Well - at least you now recognize that free cars (insurance, registration, gas, AAA, repairs) are not some urban myth.
Let’s give welfare recipients cars but let’s not give Maria a mammogram.
(do you think viagra will still be free?)
Well - at least you now recognize that free cars (insurance, registration, gas, AAA, repairs) are not some urban myth.
Let’s give welfare recipients cars but let’s not give Maria a mammogram.
(do you think viagra will still be free?)
Well - at least you now recognize that free cars (insurance, registration, gas, AAA, repairs) are not some urban myth.
Let’s give welfare recipients cars but let’s not give Maria a mammogram.
(do you think viagra will still be free?)
Well that was the first problem.
We need to change the system for those that are younger so that Congress cannot steal their money like they have done to the rest of us.
There is mathematically no possible way that the Fed. Gov. can continue to pay those who are on SS or anywhere near retirement, without continuing the payroll tax transfer from the young.
You could eliminate the entire Federal Government, except for SS and Medicare and they would still be tens of trillions short.
So now what?
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