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Most all of us break the speed limit, at least on superhighways. We wouldn’t if we were guaranteed to get caught,

Made me think on that comment. I don't remember as many sermons as I should but one pastor said if the penalty for speeding was death, how many of us would speed? Most of us would drive 10mph under just to make sure we didn't break the law. His point being that the penalty for sin is death and we should stay as far away from potential sin as possible.

On a general note. You are hanging your hat on law abiding and fairness, I understand. At what point does the govt become so oppressive that we refuse to follow the laws? This was a great debate for our founding fathers. King George represented Gods govt after all.

Through this conversation I have been thinking about revolutions. The French Revolution was a fight against what they didn't want. The American Revolution was a fight for something - freedom and liberty.

I think we will have a french revolution unless we “frame” it in the right way like our founding fathers did. But if I had to bet, it will be on a french revolution, any takers? Now you make me think further, if I really think a french style revolution is coming, what do I do? Preparation for an American style revolution is different.