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NRC: No water in spent fuel pool of Japan plant
AP via Yahoo! Finance ^ | 03/16/2011 | AP

Posted on 03/16/2011 1:12:42 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The chief of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission said Wednesday that all the water is gone from one of the spent fuel pools at Japan's most troubled nuclear plant, but Japanese officials denied it. If NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko is correct, this would mean there's nothing to stop the fuel rods from getting hotter and ultimately melting down. Read more at source.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gregoryjaczko; jaczko; nrc; nuclearpower
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To: Ilya Mourometz

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81 posted on 03/16/2011 5:44:07 PM PDT by bvw
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Dear Experts:

We keep getting the runaround when we ask “what is the worst-case scenario,” so let me make it just a little more direct: If for some bizarre reason all the personnel working on the site abandoned their positions for 90 days (i.e., no one on-site), what would happen?


82 posted on 03/16/2011 5:46:19 PM PDT by cookcounty (So did Barack Obama secretly write Bill Ayers' books? Or,............)
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To: Freddd

Good analysis. Where did that come from? One wonders, given the visuals we have of the plant housings exploding, whether the rods are even in the pools anymore (wet or dry), or whether, given the fact that they were located atop the reactors, they’ve been blown all over the plant.


83 posted on 03/16/2011 5:47:54 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives"-Ataturk)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

No, not even locally is anyone ‘boned’ due to these pools - the ‘pools’ hold spent nuclear rods, which have an extremely small amount of energy left in them. However they too must be kept immersed in water, otherwise they will heat up enough to cause fairly mild problems - far different from that of the ‘fuel’ in the rods in the active reactors.


84 posted on 03/16/2011 5:51:01 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: americanophile

Many are uneducated and can’t think critically to reach a conclusion; therefore, they rely on emotion-based thought. Further, many do not understand science and the scientific method...further muddling their ability to make sense of anything. And further...there are ongoing supporters of nobama. Obviously they are susceptible to accept anything anyone bleats )if loud enough).


85 posted on 03/16/2011 5:51:29 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: Danae

Clean it up?

How’s that cleanup going in Chernobyl?

ROFL


86 posted on 03/16/2011 5:51:29 PM PDT by model B (attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference -- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: hal ogen

I’m not sure which way to take your comment. Is that in reference to my suggestion that it was a good analysis, or because you believe that analysis up to this point has been lacking?


87 posted on 03/16/2011 5:58:13 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives"-Ataturk)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
NHK Live: Helo is currently hovering over #3 & 4, checking out conditions, monitoring radiation. Two more helos with 7.5 tons water each are on the way. Police in water cannon trucks on ground ... waiting for go signal. They're going to douse #3 first because they can see and get to its spent fuel tank more readily. Water dumped on #3 now. 9:48
88 posted on 03/16/2011 6:00:03 PM PDT by glock rocks (I am Dyslexis of Borg. Your ass will be laminated.)
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To: Danae

>> Please find an academic resource to quote. Citing
>> Wikipedia would get me an F on any paper I write. I do not
>> consider it a credible source.

You did not cite ANY source in support of your original claim.


89 posted on 03/16/2011 6:02:48 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: americanophile

Re: those in an emotion-based end-of-times panic mode.


90 posted on 03/16/2011 6:03:50 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: hal ogen

WOW just WOW

http://globaltravelerinternational.blogspot.com/2011/03/nhk-tokyo-japan-live-tv.html

Showing live footage of them dropping water

They are either VERY desperate or?


91 posted on 03/16/2011 6:11:46 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: hal ogen
It's little wonder given that we're told it's “Chernobyl on steroids” every five minutes by ‘experts.’ I think there is plenty to be concerned about, but that should translate to clear decision making and determination to minimize the problem. Even under the current scenarios it's hard for me to see this as a threat outside the Japanese home islands; the U.S., even Hawaii, should be sufficiently distant from radioactive smoke or steam plumes, but the plant is toast, and the area immediately around the plant will not be a desirable place to live for a long time.
92 posted on 03/16/2011 6:17:56 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives"-Ataturk)
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To: Danae
Shoot, many who should know better forget that once you wash off the particles... the exposure stops.

Those that you don't inhale, that is.

93 posted on 03/16/2011 6:19:50 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Danae
Stop and think for a moment, what is the environment like at the Bikini Atol? After all those weapons tests

Apples and oranges. Stop and think for a minute. How much radioactive material is in a bomb, that gives off all it's energy in a split second, compared to the TONS of material in a nuclear power plant, that generates thousands of megawatts for years?

94 posted on 03/16/2011 6:26:43 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Liberty1970
I would assume it evaporates from all the heat produced.

There has been some very good speculation in the threads here, based on the evidence we have so far, that the containment pools have cracked or are broken.

But all that means is that they will have to set up a flow of water, rather than just adding some water to 'top off" the system.

95 posted on 03/16/2011 6:34:26 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Uranium oxide melts at 3000 degrees. I don’t think spent fuel rods would get this hot. If it could, an open pool would not suffice as a cooling mechanism.

The main purpose of the storing the spent fuel rods in a water tank is water alone can moderate the radioactivity of spent fuel rods. That is, the water is more radiation shield than coolant.


96 posted on 03/16/2011 7:28:23 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Freddd

Excellent description of zirconium ‘burning’. Simply excellent.


97 posted on 03/16/2011 7:30:24 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: Fido969
Apples and oranges. Stop and think for a minute. How much radioactive material is in a bomb, that gives off all it's energy in a split second, compared to the TONS of material in a nuclear power plant

Exactly, a bomb contains what, maybe a few lbs (SWAG) and the reactors each have 350,000 lbs. The bombs are better at dispersing the materials remaining/generated during blast however.

98 posted on 03/16/2011 7:30:50 PM PDT by Errant
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To: NativeNewYorker

“If true, the rods melt. Period.”

These are spent fuel rods. Much U fuel has been burned, they are removed because they don’t have much reactivity.

They are stored under water because water is cheaper shielding than lead.

They may heat up, but they won’t start a chain reaction and melt. A separate fire could ignite them, though, they are clad in zirconium which will burn if you try hard enough.

New fuel rods are actually more dangerous when underwater, they are set up for slow neutron criticality and require water for a moderator.

Prayers up anyway, those poor people are going through a very tough time.


99 posted on 03/16/2011 7:40:52 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: cookcounty
what would happen?

On the Beach (1959)

Not so much so from the reactors, but IMO from the amount of material in the storage pools and no containment. Probably, many people really don't know and the ones who do aren't saying.

Let's hope and pray that it never gets so bad that they have to leave.

100 posted on 03/16/2011 7:46:46 PM PDT by Errant
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