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To: muawiyah
Because of my background I was once asked to give a presentation to a Bible Study group on the signs and symbols in Christian art. I started out by holding up the Hangul word for "Stop" and asked how many people in the room knew what it meant. Not a hand went up. When I presented the same word in white letters on a red octagon, and asked how many people understood the meaning, every hand went up.

My whole point was that visual symbols can communicate powerful meanings to even the illiterate, and indeed up until the time of Gutenberg and for a while afterwards, much of what the faithful knew of their faith came from sermons greatly enhanced by sculpture, painting, stained glass, etc.

There's a fascinating little passage in the movie The Mission, when Jeremy Irons's character meets up with the Guarani Indians. One of the few items he has to instruct the natives is a small painting of a Madonna and Christ child.

46 posted on 03/31/2011 2:56:00 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Great example ~ the "sign" I watch for is the Day when they no longer practice the burnt offering.

Most Christians imagine that since Christians don't do that, and Jews no longer do it, nor do Moslems or a number of other fairly well known religions that we have reached that "time".

Hindus still use the burnt offering ~ particularly those who also "adore" a portrayal of a young child (as an icon, not a statue) who is also Krishna ~ a presumptive messiah sent by God or God's counselors or a Heavenly committee (or another hundred ways of describing how that happened).

I think we are falling behind with the Hindus. Words alone, and even limited Christian iconography have not succeeded in pushing aside one messianic vision with another.

We haven't even converted the Jews !!!

Note, I have a friend who does his "adoration" while standing on his head with his legs in a seated lotus position. He's now in his 70's. Try it some time. Otherwise his bigtime traditional "god" is the one of money ~ keeps a copy on his keychain.

I know enough about this business to figure out what is simply imagery used as a memnonic, or to push a certain philosophy into the mind, and also to figure out what is traditional idolotry.

47 posted on 03/31/2011 3:09:38 PM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: Joe 6-pack
The Hebrew language is not only in letter form, but, also in pictorial form.


51 posted on 04/03/2011 12:42:47 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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52 posted on 04/03/2011 12:59:50 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Joe 6-pack
The 22'nd Hebrew letter Tav of the Hebrew Language meaning is:

Letter:

Meaning: TAV literally means a mark.
The ancient letter was in the form of an X or cross.

Pictoral image of the Hebrew letter Tav:
55 posted on 04/03/2011 1:25:14 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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