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“The time of Jacob’s trouble is NOT judgement?”

You’re looking at it far too simplistically, I think. Tribulation and trouble are synonyms, and neither one of them carries the notion of judgement in and of themselves. Now, the prophecies of this time do refer to judgements that God will render, but they also refer to this time as a time of blessing, thanksgiving, redemption, etc. So, to say that “Tribulation=Judgement” is to ignore the entire scope of what has been revealed to us.

There are also many types of judgement spoken of in the Bible, such as judgements against nations, kings, and of course the last judgement. If a believer is living in a nation that is judged by God before the Tribulation, is he raptured away before that happens as well? Or must we admit that we are not guaranteed to be spared from every type of judgement, but rather one particular type?

“Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?”

Yes, this is a quote, attributed to the people trying to hide from the Lamb at the time of the Second Coming. The day of wrath comes after the Second Coming, and if you continue to read chapter 7, you will see that the wrath does not come until after the Elect are sealed and the great multitude of the saved, “which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” are already with the Lamb. That’s a verse that I’ve never heard pre-trib believers deal with, since it specifically says that this multitude “came out of great tribulation”. How could they come out of it if they were raptured before it began?

I think you might be confusing the events detailed in Revelation with the 7 year period of the Tribulation itself. Revelation does not only cover this 7 years, but rather, that is only one part of the prophecy. So, just because the wrath is spoken of in Revelation, does not mean that it occurs during the 7 years. All the references to the wrath and judgement of God come after His return, which comes at the end of the 7 years, not during or before it. During the tribulation there are hardships, trials, and troubles, but these are not the wrath of God.