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To: Venturer
We need to remove Holder, impeach Obama, and get rid of the whole rotten mess Obama has installed in our Government.

The way we do it in this country is to hold another election. That's coming in NOV of 2012 and the political brawl to assume command will commence this summer. To contemplate doing so in any other fashion reduces us to the level of banana republic or OPEC. In all of our history this nation has only attempted an impeachment twice. Once in 1868 with Andrew Johnston shortly after the end of the Civil War (aka the War of Northern Aggression) and then again in the era of Bill Clinton. That's all. This guy is awful but the country will survive him. But we weaken ourselves if we try to short circuit the process, because it really will lead to situations like Egypt and Libya. I say leave him in place so by the time the actual election rolls around his example will lead to the utter ruination of the Democratic Party and the LIBTARDS as a (sub) species.

12 posted on 04/05/2011 7:30:10 AM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: ExSoldier

Historically you are correct, but America today is in the unprecedented position of becoming a third world country./

Previously we have had peoples from all other countries who have come to America and assimilated.

Today we have hoards of people coming in with no intention of assimilating. I speak of the Hispanics from South America, the Muslims from the Mid East. To add to this we have Americans who hate our country for some reason. Liberal;s who think everything should be free, and entitlement seekers who agree.

We have a political environment where our so-called legislators are more interested in getting elected by pandering to these people than in what is good for our country.

These people are forming a coalition that we will soon not be able to defeat at the polls, We will have to seek other ways of getting our country back from them. They have to be stopped and stopped soon.

You have an opinion that we can survive Obama for the next two years, and perhaps we can, but can we survive him for another six(6)?

Already these people may be powerful enough to destroy America as we know it. I suppose we will have to wait and see.


13 posted on 04/05/2011 7:58:24 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: ExSoldier

>>We need to remove Holder, impeach Obama, and get rid of the whole rotten mess Obama has installed in our Government.
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>The way we do it in this country is to hold another election. That’s coming in NOV of 2012 and the political brawl to assume command will commence this summer. To contemplate doing so in any other fashion reduces us to the level of banana republic or OPEC.

Win The future, man?
If your screen-name is true then you took an oath to support and defend the Constitution; the Constitution says:
Art 1, Sec 2, last sentence — “The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.”
Art 1, Sec 3, last 2 paragraphs — “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.”

“Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.”

Why do you place ‘tradition’ above the Law that is the Constitution?

>Once in 1868 with Andrew Johnston shortly after the end of the Civil War (aka the War of Northern Aggression) and then again in the era of Bill Clinton. That’s all. This guy is awful but the country will survive him. But we weaken ourselves if we try to short circuit the process, because it really will lead to situations like Egypt and Libya.

Why do you advocate people suffering evil more than they have to? The Declaration of Independence was/is correct when it said:
“all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

If the Constitution is not upheld, then I think it is evident that we need to throw off such government.


16 posted on 04/05/2011 8:36:34 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ExSoldier
"The way we do it in this country is to hold another election."

So what if we democratically elect a Communist dictator, ala Venezuela (many would say we already have)? Do we freedom-loving Americans simply shrug our shoulders and say "oh well, that's the will of the people", and go about our business as if our favorite TV show had been pre-empted? Or do we do our patriotic duty and refuse to allow the anti-freedom, anti-American agenda to advance one more inch, and do it "by any means necessary"?

If you're a veteran, you took the same oath that I did. That oath has no expiration date. You swore to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. If that means you have to spill blood, or have yours spilled, so be it. I hope and pray to God Almighty it doesn't come to that, but if it does, I'm ready to do my duty for my nation. I hope you are as well.

As far as the nation surviving the Obammunist goes, maybe yes and maybe no. But I heard someone recently say that while we may survive the Obammunist, we won't survive the legions of brain-dead, socialist, Leftists who put him in office. The danger to America isn't just one man, it's 53% of the American electorate. It's the know-nothing Leftist Generation Xers and Generation.commers that could control our government for the next 40-50 years. We won't survive them

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

22 posted on 04/05/2011 9:55:17 AM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? www.myspace.com/10poundtest)
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