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NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina
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Posted on 04/05/2011 10:42:27 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: Red in Blue PA

“Really?”

Wake up and smell the decay. We long ago gave up our rights, cops can and have stormed into peoples homes (usually at 3 am), shot the dog and maybe grandma if she made a threatening move, on the slightest pretext. They can take your kids based on an anonymous tip from the neighbor they can seize any cash you may have and you’ll have to prove that it was earned honestly in order to get it back (and will not be reimbursed for lawyer fees). You can be kicked out of your house with just the clothes on your back based only on the word of your wife or SO. You can be arrested and thrown in prison for not paying child support debts. You can be arrested for praying too close to an abortion clinic or trying to talk one of the women going in out of murdering her child. You can be virtually strip searched and groped at the airport for the crime of wanting to fly.

I could go on but you get the idea, every one of these things happened with the enthusiastic support of most Americans. They have willingly given up their rights by voting for the idiots that made these laws and voted for the judges that upheld these laws as “constitutional”. This is what the majority wants and in a democracy the majority wins. Very few have taken up arms because of these violations of our “rights” and those few are currently either 6 ft under or rotting in prison.

Most people do not take up arms because they prefer live as somewhat free serfs rather than dead patriots as can be seen from the majority of people NOT going postal. It has always amazed me when I look at some of the outrageous things that have happened to people that they never grab a gun and started shooting. But that is the way of human nature, we will not fight back until either there is nothing to lose OR some leader(s) emerge that make a case for revolt and provide a reasonable probability of success. Even during the American Revolution very few people actually took up arms and that under pretty much ideal circumstances where we had the backing of France, decent leadership and an enemy separated by an ocean.

So what are the alternatives? Most reasonable people will just ignore it and move on with what life they can eek out of the circumstances they find themselves in. A few will agitate for political change and get involved in lobbying or some such thing.

Almost none will grab a gun and go shooting people unless they are mentally unstable (usually on prozac or some other drug that lowers your resistance to impulsive actions) or think that they have nothing left lose. Even in these cases the gunman usually doesn’t shoot the one responsible for whatever grievance they have but just anyone that happens to be around at the time they snap. I guarantee that most people will condemn the shooters actions which means that any sympathy the public might have had for your cause is gone. Further more they will then associate negative things with anyone else that is agitating politically for that cause so in the end you’ll lose even more rights.

Do you really think that shooting the New Orleans cops trying to seize guns after Katrina would have changed anything for the better? More than likely it would have lead to an even more severe crack down on rights and an escalation of violence by the cops who would then be even more likely to shoot first and ask questions later. Why? Because that’s human nature, when those in power have that power challenged they react with even more force in order to bring those under them into line.

So even though I believe that the 2nd amendment is an individual right I think there is a reason it was also tied to state militias. It was not supposed to be for some Rambo fighting the Man solo but to be used as a way for the States to keep the federal government in line. Unfortunately the Civil war and the complete federalization of State Militias (now National Guard units) means that there is no counter balance to federal power or to State power since those militias were volunteer organizations that could also rebel against State abuses (helps to have a ready made military organization if you want to revolt).

Any rational person can see that grabing a gun and shooting people isn’t going to change things (given the current circumstances) so yes, there is NO excuse for violence as it will just make things worse not better.

Are there circumstances where violence does make sense? Yes, but they are such extreme circumstances that it is highly unlikely that you’ll ever see them. A good example was the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto during WWII when they rose up against the Nazis and started fighting back. They had no chance, but they also had nothing to lose since they already knew they were dead anyway. Currently I don’t see anything short of O declaring himself King that would justify taking up arms against the government, and even then I’d have to think about it and wait to see which way the military went because if they backed O in that kind of thing then you’d have no chance and I’m not one for committing suicide.

If you want to change things the only way is to get involved in the political process. Get out and convince people to support your cause, whatever that might be. Organize or contribute to organizations that support your cause. In Louisiana after they saw the abuses by the chocolate mayor and his thugs, the citizens protested, called in and agitated until they changed state laws to prevent that from ever happening again. Now that’s change I can believe in! All across this nation we are winning back some of our rights (and losing some as well) through the political process, NOT through threats of violence.


41 posted on 04/06/2011 2:05:00 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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