Skip to comments.Deal falls short of GOP cut pledge; 'As good as we could get,' says Boehner (We lost!)
Posted on 04/08/2011 10:15:07 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
The bipartisan deal struck Friday falls short of the House Republican campaign pledge to cut $100 billion in fiscal 2011 spending.
The pact cuts $78.5 billion when compared to President Obama's fiscal 2011 budget request, which was never enacted.
The accord cuts $39 billion in actual spending, $22 billion less than bill the House passed in February.
In a brief interview, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill the agreement was "as good a deal as we could get."
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), chairman of the Republican Study Committee, said he expects "significant" opposition from conservatives, both to the short-term fix and the long-term spending bill. He said he will vote against both
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Its a damn good start.
I just went on U.S.congress.guv and sent a pretty nasty letter to boehner.
Hope many more do the same.
Tell this ball less dem lite cry baby what you think of him folding on abortion and gub mint spending.
Folded on defunding epa
folded on funding planned parenthood
folded on truely cutting gub mint spending.
What the hell good are you there john boehner ya dem lite fool.
Grow up, go study the process, then get back to me.
You didn’t graduate high school until you were 23?
Wow. I thought they kicked student out when they reached 19.
I am sure that negotiating involved each side offering up a cut in one of their sacred cows,or so to speak. So Obama and his sycophants told Boener and his group that if we cut more money it will be military paychecks.
B. was left between a rock and a hard spot,the only way to get the money needed to achieve their goal and avoid a shut down was somehow tied up with the military paychecks,how exactly,I do not know but I will bet that the deal hung on that issue.
Our president is exceedingly clever and for men who believe the ends justify the means there is no problem with being sly,crafty and clever as long as you win.
BTW,I think too many Republicans are also relativists but I don't think Boener is one of them. I know that it was Obama that brought up not paying the military,but the media spin would have been that the Republicans denied the military their paychecks and there was probably a plausible deniability aspect that would have protected Obama.
That is an $80 B cut ONLY using Democrat math. I.e. it is an $80 billion cut from PROPOSED spending. It actually only cut less than half that.
Less than half, and justification using Democrat math is “As good as we could get”?
I agree this was a net positive but....
When you have fallen over a cliff it is a little hard to celebrate the gentle updraft that slows your acceleration.
If this deficit isn’t turned around soon it won’t matter who is Republican, who is Democrat, who is conservative, who is liberal.
We will all be serfs.
Advertisements aimed at TV watching teens without jobs would be what I would cut.
And military bands. Play a recording.
“as good as we could get”?
Geez, diD ya’ say pretty pretty please?
WE GOT SCREWED AGAIN!
Thier sleeping in the same bed
25 actually. I’m a REAL good liar ;)
Just like “WE” flooded the boards, phone lines, e-mails, etc when Bush was going to pass the Bailout in 2008. It was 100 to 1 against the damn thing. Yet we had President Bush that said “I had to abandon free market principles in order to save the free market system.”
The Tea Party rose out of those ashes but now the deck is heavily stacked against us.
The Republicans that agreed to compromise last night can talk big & bad yet cannot “walk the walk”
I will keep up the fight but this does not bode well.
Was there any doubt in anyone with a grain of intelligence that the RINOs would cave in? They always have.
The Republican Party...the party of compromise. Leaders NEVER COMPROMISE, losers do.
Excellent response from a true America loving patriot.
Now, if we all will turn our backs on the RINO party and start supporting and preparing the Tea Party (or ANY party that supports taxpayers) for the next election, we just might be able to save our country, it’s heritage, and our way of life.
Boehner and the House Republicans scored a big victory tonight.
Signed, The Democrat party.
Since he caved and took the Dem plan he should have no trouble getting their votes. Hell, Nancy might vote for it.
You should be flamed for that post !
Hey!! all you kiddies out there....... listen up.
When you look in the candy store window you can dream all you want about eating up the goodies. But.....if you have no money, no goodies.
The budget goodies can’t be had without votes. Absent the votes, your dreams are just that, dreams.
Let's get real folks, the RATS still control the Senate and Obama has the WH.
We are going in the right direction and I am grateful for that.
That's it! The Tea Party turned the debate from a question, "What should we buy next?" to a statement, "Stop spending and pay off the bills!"
Big victory? You can't be serious. We're running a $1.5 TRILLION annual budget deficit. This nation is accumulating debt at the rate of $6 million/minute. We added over $260 BILLION to the debt just in March alone. Gubmint spending went up 25% in the past two years and kicking the can down the road for another week is the "best deal we could get"? Where again is the "big victory"? The only "big victory" is the victory won for the status quo......
This thread is full of ignorant, juvenile comments from FReepers that should never be allowed to vote because, in my opinion, they say things as stupid as the people who want their “Obama Money”.
Politics is a dirty, ugly fecal-infected fight over who rides on top of the turd while the toilet is flushing.
They could break with the military....but not for long. An unpaid military tends to overthrow those who don't pay them.
You are right. And I would have expected better from Freepers than saying this is a “Big Win.”
But I guess we saved our “political capital”!
I guess we are not broke as a country as long as we all have our political capital, right?
Maybe we can give our “political capital” to posterity.
They won’t have a strong country, or a strong economy, or any wealth, but by God, at least Republicans didn’t give away any political capital!
Boy that would have been horrible if we lost that.
“Thats such a ridiculous analysis, its embarrassing to be a member here when I read such idiocies.”
Then become a non-member here.
I suppose you would have been the British officer that ordered the charge of the Light Brigade. A charge into the cannons on both sides of the dead ended valley will only chew up and make a bloody pulp of fine cavalry.
Given the strong emplacement and the inability to take the high ground, a better course is to post snipers and knock off as many officers as stick up their heads above the ramparts.
The basic assumption, a win, is fallacious. Kill what you can, while you can and make the cavalry charge on better ground.
We’re so screwed.
$39 billion in actual cuts?!
Our government spends $9.6 billion PER DAY. This $39b cut is enough to run the government for FOUR DAYS.
So, what are we going to do next wednesday after we spend the money Boner just saved us?
I disagree. Our deficit problem, all $1.6 trillion/yr of it, could be solved with ZERO votes. All they have to do is let the government shut down then refuse to authorize a raise to the debt ceiling when that comes up in a couple of weeks. Presto, instant balanced budget.
But they won’t do that. We have nobody in the Federal government working to actually solve the problem. NOBODY.
Boner is in the Rove wing of the Whig Party. I fully expect them to trot out Jeb Bush for the next election.
He must have lost his copy of the Pledge to America....
An my way or the highway approach won't work. Take to hard of a line and after the next election we will find ourselves in the position we were in the previous two years when all our futures were in the hands of Reid and Pelosi.
For years the libs takes a bite at a time and over time have changed our way of life. Those that think we are going to return in one big swoop on the budget are dreaming.
Take this bite then take another and another. That will work, shutting things down and turning off the voters will not work.
A cancer which is growing more slowly just lets you die more slowly.
I'll take that bet.
Gee, how original and how deep thought you must have put into that one.
Which really points out the problem with this site right now as opposed to when I started following Free Republic about 1999 or so.
Then there were people who put thought into topics and made intelligent analysis. Now it's just a bitch session like your post.
It is really not all that complicated if one can add and subtract.
I was one of those that stood to be furloughed and miss some paychecks. Unlike so many who say they want cuts, but not if it affects them, I was praying for them to stand fast and insist. I may be a DoD civilian now, but 24 years in uniform will never dissipate the duty/honor/country attitude. Let's hope enough Americans saw through the Dims baseness and who will get behind the Tea Part movement and PUSH these whimps.
Ried threatened to make Boehner to cry again on TV.
Cutting Thunder Birds is a good Idea, but leave the Blue’s alone.
“Last I saw we won in WI......... We dont have the senate or the WH, this was a huge win given we are only one spoke in the wheel. They will have to vote on what they agree to vote on, remember we have another battle coming up very fast... the debt ceiling. Yall have to look at this as moving the line forward, sometimes it will be inches, sometimes more...”
I agree with the ‘We won’s This is a step way up from the
usual Republican capitulation. Imagine Trent Lott fighting this battle for you.
However much progress this represents, our progress from here depends a lot on appreciation.
If those who don’t appreciate what we accomplished here show nothing but criticism then Boehner might just decide not to bother so much. But if we join together to encourage this progress we might just get a lot done over time.
i’ve got to disagree. Boehner did a great job. I can’t figure why folks are having problem with what he’s done.
First, he made the most important question in US history get center stage....the life of the unborn. We have 53 million dead babies on the national conscience and Boehner beat them on it.
FINALLY, there is to be a meaningful ABORTION vote in the US Senate (and House).
ADDITIONALLY, he has engineered another vote on Obamacare in the US Senate (and presumably House). Obamacare is ALSO a pro-choice document.
HE has defunded the IRS increase.
ALL OF THE ABOVE, costs money — big money on Obamacare and the IRS expansion — so the 40 billion he horsetraded up from the Democrats opening position of 4 billion must have added to it the impact of defunded abortion, defunded Obamacare, and defunded IRS expansion.
And Boehner accomplished all this outnumbered 2 to 1 in terms of the legislative process.
They did not have to give anything. They had the vote power to give him nothing.
I see, we lost the battle but can win the war...right. How did that work out for the CSA at Bull Run.
I keeping telling people that the only way for this country to get back on common sense footing is to throw out everyone on Capital Hill and let “Joe 6-pack America” make the rules. Then you’ll see common sense changes that will save the nation. Until then, we’re on the road to financial, moral, and societal Armageddon.
It’s not clear next week’s bill will pass. There will be defections both by conservative Republicans (who say the cuts are insufficient) and progressive Democrats (who say the cuts go to far).
This is why every seat counts. We need to increase the Republican majority and increase our presence within the Republican majority.
Wisconsin is the key. If we can balance the budget without tax increases in that state, we can do the same thing at the federal level. The country is not hopelessly lost. We have to soldier on. This is our gerenation’s Valley Forge.
I am with you. Hussein got $78B less than requested. The Republicans can run on the FACT that they passed a budget whereas the Rats did not for over a year. I refuse to join in on the whining.
The ones who should be whining are the liberals.
The Dems understand this. Our side, apparently, still does not. Once again....[sigh]....