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Deal falls short of GOP cut pledge; 'As good as we could get,' says Boehner (We lost!)
The Hill ^ | Saturday April 9, 2011 | Bob Cusack

Posted on 04/08/2011 10:15:07 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

The bipartisan deal struck Friday falls short of the House Republican campaign pledge to cut $100 billion in fiscal 2011 spending.

The pact cuts $78.5 billion when compared to President Obama's fiscal 2011 budget request, which was never enacted.

The accord cuts $39 billion in actual spending, $22 billion less than bill the House passed in February.

In a brief interview, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill the agreement was "as good a deal as we could get."

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), chairman of the Republican Study Committee, said he expects "significant" opposition from conservatives, both to the short-term fix and the long-term spending bill. He said he will vote against both

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: boehner; byeboehner; kenyanarsehole; kenyanvillagefraud; obama; palin; shutdown; soetorohasaids; sorossidiot
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To: Siena Dreaming

Its a damn good start.


101 posted on 04/09/2011 1:56:53 AM PDT by linn37
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To: Bigtigermike

I just went on U.S.congress.guv and sent a pretty nasty letter to boehner.
Hope many more do the same.
Tell this ball less dem lite cry baby what you think of him folding on abortion and gub mint spending.
Folded on defunding epa
folded on funding planned parenthood
folded on truely cutting gub mint spending.
What the hell good are you there john boehner ya dem lite fool.


102 posted on 04/09/2011 2:26:21 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: dragnet2

Grow up, go study the process, then get back to me.

We’re done.


103 posted on 04/09/2011 2:32:02 AM PDT by ratsreek
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

You didn’t graduate high school until you were 23?

Wow. I thought they kicked student out when they reached 19.


104 posted on 04/09/2011 2:35:56 AM PDT by ratsreek
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To: Kent C
I am sorry I did not write more clearly but behind the scenes negotiating is quite complex and hidden from view. But I will try again.

I am sure that negotiating involved each side offering up a cut in one of their sacred cows,or so to speak. So Obama and his sycophants told Boener and his group that if we cut more money it will be military paychecks.

B. was left between a rock and a hard spot,the only way to get the money needed to achieve their goal and avoid a shut down was somehow tied up with the military paychecks,how exactly,I do not know but I will bet that the deal hung on that issue.

Our president is exceedingly clever and for men who believe the ends justify the means there is no problem with being sly,crafty and clever as long as you win.

BTW,I think too many Republicans are also relativists but I don't think Boener is one of them. I know that it was Obama that brought up not paying the military,but the media spin would have been that the Republicans denied the military their paychecks and there was probably a plausible deniability aspect that would have protected Obama.

105 posted on 04/09/2011 2:42:27 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: Siena Dreaming

That is an $80 B cut ONLY using Democrat math. I.e. it is an $80 billion cut from PROPOSED spending. It actually only cut less than half that.

Less than half, and justification using Democrat math is “As good as we could get”?


106 posted on 04/09/2011 2:46:15 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: teg_76

Bump


107 posted on 04/09/2011 2:46:49 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Longbow1969

I agree this was a net positive but....

When you have fallen over a cliff it is a little hard to celebrate the gentle updraft that slows your acceleration.

If this deficit isn’t turned around soon it won’t matter who is Republican, who is Democrat, who is conservative, who is liberal.

We will all be serfs.


108 posted on 04/09/2011 2:49:25 AM PDT by cgbg (No bailouts for New York and California. Let them eat debt.)
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To: BooBoo1000
Of all the money spent to ‘advertise and promote’ our Armed Services - the Blue Angels and the Thunder Birds supply pretty good “bang” for the buck.

Advertisements aimed at TV watching teens without jobs would be what I would cut.

And military bands. Play a recording.

109 posted on 04/09/2011 2:51:38 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Bigtigermike

“as good as we could get”?

Geez, diD ya’ say pretty pretty please?

Sheesh...


110 posted on 04/09/2011 3:13:47 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Bigtigermike
FYI, there will be NO votes on the EPA or CPB as a part of the agreement. They will allow votes on defunding Planned Parenthood and Obamacare but they must complete an audit first conducted by both Rats and RINOs.

WE GOT SCREWED AGAIN!

111 posted on 04/09/2011 3:27:32 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Kent C

Thier sleeping in the same bed


112 posted on 04/09/2011 3:29:05 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: ratsreek

25 actually. I’m a REAL good liar ;)


113 posted on 04/09/2011 3:44:03 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spineless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Conservatives lost.
Just like “WE” flooded the boards, phone lines, e-mails, etc when Bush was going to pass the Bailout in 2008. It was 100 to 1 against the damn thing. Yet we had President Bush that said “I had to abandon free market principles in order to save the free market system.”
The Tea Party rose out of those ashes but now the deck is heavily stacked against us.
The Republicans that agreed to compromise last night can talk big & bad yet cannot “walk the walk”
I will keep up the fight but this does not bode well.


114 posted on 04/09/2011 3:46:10 AM PDT by UrbanPanhandler (To find something "Wrong" in anything, just find where government has touched or regulated it.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Was there any doubt in anyone with a grain of intelligence that the RINOs would cave in? They always have.

The Republican Party...the party of compromise. Leaders NEVER COMPROMISE, losers do.


115 posted on 04/09/2011 4:11:51 AM PDT by DH (48th TFW, A&E Lakenheath England, 67-70)
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To: Nik Naym

Excellent response from a true America loving patriot.

Now, if we all will turn our backs on the RINO party and start supporting and preparing the Tea Party (or ANY party that supports taxpayers) for the next election, we just might be able to save our country, it’s heritage, and our way of life.


116 posted on 04/09/2011 4:18:40 AM PDT by DH (48th TFW, A&E Lakenheath England, 67-70)
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To: Longbow1969

Boehner and the House Republicans scored a big victory tonight.


I will contact you later on about a deal we have in Nigeria that you may be interested in. We need people like you.

Signed, The Democrat party.


117 posted on 04/09/2011 4:23:23 AM PDT by DH (48th TFW, A&E Lakenheath England, 67-70)
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To: Mariner

Since he caved and took the Dem plan he should have no trouble getting their votes. Hell, Nancy might vote for it.


118 posted on 04/09/2011 4:24:12 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: BooBoo1000

You should be flamed for that post !


119 posted on 04/09/2011 4:28:24 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Bigtigermike

Hey!! all you kiddies out there....... listen up.

When you look in the candy store window you can dream all you want about eating up the goodies. But.....if you have no money, no goodies.

The budget goodies can’t be had without votes. Absent the votes, your dreams are just that, dreams.


120 posted on 04/09/2011 4:34:09 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Siena Dreaming
Let's start playing in the real world. I am not going to go after my own team. They have made good progress--we live on to continue the fight. Just a few minutes ago, FOX reported more progress that was made that had not been reported before. We are not going to get all we want right off the bat.

Let's get real folks, the RATS still control the Senate and Obama has the WH.

We are going in the right direction and I am grateful for that.

121 posted on 04/09/2011 4:38:00 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Longbow1969
"We have now changed the terms of the debate."

That's it! The Tea Party turned the debate from a question, "What should we buy next?" to a statement, "Stop spending and pay off the bills!"

122 posted on 04/09/2011 4:51:03 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: Longbow1969
Boehner and the House Republicans scored a big victory tonight.

Big victory? You can't be serious. We're running a $1.5 TRILLION annual budget deficit. This nation is accumulating debt at the rate of $6 million/minute. We added over $260 BILLION to the debt just in March alone. Gubmint spending went up 25% in the past two years and kicking the can down the road for another week is the "best deal we could get"? Where again is the "big victory"? The only "big victory" is the victory won for the status quo......

123 posted on 04/09/2011 4:54:01 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I agree.

This thread is full of ignorant, juvenile comments from FReepers that should never be allowed to vote because, in my opinion, they say things as stupid as the people who want their “Obama Money”.

Politics is a dirty, ugly fecal-infected fight over who rides on top of the turd while the toilet is flushing.


124 posted on 04/09/2011 4:55:59 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: MestaMachine
They could NOT break with our Military.

They could break with the military....but not for long. An unpaid military tends to overthrow those who don't pay them.

125 posted on 04/09/2011 4:59:15 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: apillar

You are right. And I would have expected better from Freepers than saying this is a “Big Win.”

But I guess we saved our “political capital”!

I guess we are not broke as a country as long as we all have our political capital, right?

Maybe we can give our “political capital” to posterity.

They won’t have a strong country, or a strong economy, or any wealth, but by God, at least Republicans didn’t give away any political capital!

Boy that would have been horrible if we lost that.

/sarcasm off


126 posted on 04/09/2011 5:02:59 AM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: ratsreek

“That’s such a ridiculous analysis, it’s embarrassing to be a member here when I read such idiocies.”

Then become a non-member here.


127 posted on 04/09/2011 5:10:00 AM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: NYCslicker

I suppose you would have been the British officer that ordered the charge of the Light Brigade. A charge into the cannons on both sides of the dead ended valley will only chew up and make a bloody pulp of fine cavalry.

Given the strong emplacement and the inability to take the high ground, a better course is to post snipers and knock off as many officers as stick up their heads above the ramparts.

The basic assumption, a win, is fallacious. Kill what you can, while you can and make the cavalry charge on better ground.


128 posted on 04/09/2011 5:12:02 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Bigtigermike

We’re so screwed.

$39 billion in actual cuts?!

Our government spends $9.6 billion PER DAY. This $39b cut is enough to run the government for FOUR DAYS.

So, what are we going to do next wednesday after we spend the money Boner just saved us?


129 posted on 04/09/2011 5:22:08 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: bert

I disagree. Our deficit problem, all $1.6 trillion/yr of it, could be solved with ZERO votes. All they have to do is let the government shut down then refuse to authorize a raise to the debt ceiling when that comes up in a couple of weeks. Presto, instant balanced budget.

But they won’t do that. We have nobody in the Federal government working to actually solve the problem. NOBODY.


130 posted on 04/09/2011 5:25:35 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Siena Dreaming

Boner is in the Rove wing of the Whig Party. I fully expect them to trot out Jeb Bush for the next election.


131 posted on 04/09/2011 5:31:28 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: TalBlack

He must have lost his copy of the Pledge to America....


132 posted on 04/09/2011 5:32:35 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: screaminsunshine
I come to this site daily to read the news and some of the commentary. However there are times when I don't see a lot of difference between the attitudes of DU and a lot of posters here.

An my way or the highway approach won't work. Take to hard of a line and after the next election we will find ourselves in the position we were in the previous two years when all our futures were in the hands of Reid and Pelosi.

For years the libs takes a bite at a time and over time have changed our way of life. Those that think we are going to return in one big swoop on the budget are dreaming.

Take this bite then take another and another. That will work, shutting things down and turning off the voters will not work.

133 posted on 04/09/2011 5:42:41 AM PDT by billva
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To: billva

How Rovarian.


135 posted on 04/09/2011 5:51:18 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: WOSG
next 6 years the govt - under GOP budgets grew smaller than at any time in the previous 30 years

A cancer which is growing more slowly just lets you die more slowly.

136 posted on 04/09/2011 5:52:14 AM PDT by Notary Sojac
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To: Mariner
Within 6 months, he's GONE.

I'll take that bet.

137 posted on 04/09/2011 5:54:54 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: screaminsunshine
How Rovarian.

Gee, how original and how deep thought you must have put into that one.

Which really points out the problem with this site right now as opposed to when I started following Free Republic about 1999 or so.

Then there were people who put thought into topics and made intelligent analysis. Now it's just a bitch session like your post.

138 posted on 04/09/2011 6:00:30 AM PDT by billva
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To: billva

It is really not all that complicated if one can add and subtract.


139 posted on 04/09/2011 6:03:04 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: Tempest
They blinked over all the negative hype if they allowed a shutdown. They need to add huge doses of grit, spine, heart, gonads and testosterone to their diets.

I was one of those that stood to be furloughed and miss some paychecks. Unlike so many who say they want cuts, but not if it affects them, I was praying for them to stand fast and insist. I may be a DoD civilian now, but 24 years in uniform will never dissipate the duty/honor/country attitude. Let's hope enough Americans saw through the Dims baseness and who will get behind the Tea Part movement and PUSH these whimps.

140 posted on 04/09/2011 6:09:33 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Bigtigermike

Ried threatened to make Boehner to cry again on TV.


141 posted on 04/09/2011 6:12:53 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Winning 24/7, Tiger's blood)
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To: BooBoo1000

Cutting Thunder Birds is a good Idea, but leave the Blue’s alone.


142 posted on 04/09/2011 6:19:26 AM PDT by bluecollarman (searching .......)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“Last I saw we won in WI......... We don’t have the senate or the WH, this was a huge win given we are only one spoke in the wheel. They will have to vote on what they agree to vote on, remember we have another battle coming up very fast... the debt ceiling. Ya’ll have to look at this as moving the line forward, sometimes it will be inches, sometimes more...”

I agree with the ‘We won’s This is a step way up from the
usual Republican capitulation. Imagine Trent Lott fighting this battle for you.

However much progress this represents, our progress from here depends a lot on appreciation.

If those who don’t appreciate what we accomplished here show nothing but criticism then Boehner might just decide not to bother so much. But if we join together to encourage this progress we might just get a lot done over time.


143 posted on 04/09/2011 6:19:45 AM PDT by bluescape (The American media, The guard dog that holds you down while the attacker has his way.)
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To: Bigtigermike

i’ve got to disagree. Boehner did a great job. I can’t figure why folks are having problem with what he’s done.

First, he made the most important question in US history get center stage....the life of the unborn. We have 53 million dead babies on the national conscience and Boehner beat them on it.

FINALLY, there is to be a meaningful ABORTION vote in the US Senate (and House).

ADDITIONALLY, he has engineered another vote on Obamacare in the US Senate (and presumably House). Obamacare is ALSO a pro-choice document.

HE has defunded the IRS increase.

ALL OF THE ABOVE, costs money — big money on Obamacare and the IRS expansion — so the 40 billion he horsetraded up from the Democrats opening position of 4 billion must have added to it the impact of defunded abortion, defunded Obamacare, and defunded IRS expansion.

And Boehner accomplished all this outnumbered 2 to 1 in terms of the legislative process.

They did not have to give anything. They had the vote power to give him nothing.


144 posted on 04/09/2011 6:22:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: bert

I see, we lost the battle but can win the war...right. How did that work out for the CSA at Bull Run.


145 posted on 04/09/2011 6:24:33 AM PDT by Mouton (Government expands to fill any voids in freedom.)
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To: Luke21

Too many.


146 posted on 04/09/2011 6:25:36 AM PDT by sport
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To: Mariner

I keeping telling people that the only way for this country to get back on common sense footing is to throw out everyone on Capital Hill and let “Joe 6-pack America” make the rules. Then you’ll see common sense changes that will save the nation. Until then, we’re on the road to financial, moral, and societal Armageddon.


147 posted on 04/09/2011 6:26:20 AM PDT by ducttape45
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To: Bigtigermike

It’s not clear next week’s bill will pass. There will be defections both by conservative Republicans (who say the cuts are insufficient) and progressive Democrats (who say the cuts go to far).

This is why every seat counts. We need to increase the Republican majority and increase our presence within the Republican majority.

Wisconsin is the key. If we can balance the budget without tax increases in that state, we can do the same thing at the federal level. The country is not hopelessly lost. We have to soldier on. This is our gerenation’s Valley Forge.


148 posted on 04/09/2011 6:33:12 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Drango

I am with you. Hussein got $78B less than requested. The Republicans can run on the FACT that they passed a budget whereas the Rats did not for over a year. I refuse to join in on the whining.

The ones who should be whining are the liberals.


149 posted on 04/09/2011 6:56:18 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Bigtigermike
"Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy." Sir Winston Churchill, Speech, 1941, Harrow School

The Dems understand this. Our side, apparently, still does not. Once again....[sigh]....

150 posted on 04/09/2011 7:09:06 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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