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Who Won the Shutdown Showdown? It Wasn't Even Close
FoxNews.com ^ | April 09, 2011 | by Carl Cameron

Posted on 04/09/2011 6:26:52 AM PDT by topher

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To: topher

When people on THIS SITE are ready to give up the precious mortgage interest deduction and their some of their precious Social Security payments, I’ll take their WHINING about the deficit and the debt a bit more seriously.

For now my only option is to continue to prepare for the collapse of the dollar (and subsequent transformation of the US to a Third World country).


61 posted on 04/09/2011 7:03:36 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts))
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To: lonestar; pburgh01

How about this:

From the start let the Dems and the American people now that the line in the sand was 20% of the budget deficit. From the start say we are compromising on leaving 80% of the budget deficit but we must cut 20% of it or we will shut it down until we achieve those cuts.20% of the deficit is 300 billion...that is leadership...


62 posted on 04/09/2011 7:03:44 AM PDT by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: topher

Get the House to stand and deliver.


63 posted on 04/09/2011 7:03:59 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: topher
John Boohoo won't recover from this idiocy. He's as good as "trent lott" in my book.

To hell with all the RINOs.

64 posted on 04/09/2011 7:04:06 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Big Bronson

65 posted on 04/09/2011 7:04:35 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Thermalseeker
Here's some more perspective: The Medicare Part D Socialist boondoggle which, btw, both Ryan and Boehner voted for, is now $160 Billion in the hole and sinking deeper with every passing day.....

Yep. This kind of unconstitutional, socialist crap has to be cut, even though "conservatives" may fear backlash from the moochers. If the states want to implement medicare, fine, but it is not a constitutional power of the federal government to pay group rates for doctor bills.

66 posted on 04/09/2011 7:04:37 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: topher

No excuses now,

They should have just let it shut down. Then the Democrats would have been forced to accept the terms.

Now, the same old, same old, will just keep on going for the rest of the year, instead of actual accountability.

This is insanity by it’s definition.


67 posted on 04/09/2011 7:05:16 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: Thermalseeker

Heck Ryan WROTE medicare D and Boehner passed out checks from K street on the FLOOR of the House to get it passed...


68 posted on 04/09/2011 7:05:52 AM PDT by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Melchior

We had that with Bush and look where we got.


69 posted on 04/09/2011 7:06:14 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: BobL
When people on THIS SITE are ready to give up the precious mortgage interest deduction and their some of their precious Social Security payments, I’ll take their WHINING about the deficit and the debt a bit more seriously.

I'm ready NOW.

Give me a fixed tax rate, same as everybody else.

70 posted on 04/09/2011 7:06:22 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: Gipper08

I’d say you owe the Senate and President at least the same amount of problem.


71 posted on 04/09/2011 7:07:05 AM PDT by wita
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To: backwoods-engineer

A lot of conservatives are figuring out they are really Libertarians.


72 posted on 04/09/2011 7:07:16 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: topher

Never send a crybaby to do a mans job,He must be the worlds Worst Poker player! The guy had a unbeatable hand and THEN FOLDS, Until this basket case is gone, we are in trouble.


73 posted on 04/09/2011 7:08:06 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: topher

Also, it was reported that Reid agreed to a vote on funding PP as a stand alone bill, so that fight is not over yet. There is also an agreement to allow an up or down vote on repealing ObamaCare. With a very heated election season just around the corner there will be more than a couple of Dems who are very worried about their election chances that will be forced into taking a public stand one way or the other. That will help the GOP in the next election. In the face of Obama/Reid, I think Mr Speaker did ok.


74 posted on 04/09/2011 7:08:17 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: wita

Did the Senate and president represent themselves as limited government conservative activists? If we kept our house clean then the Dems would be irrelevant.


75 posted on 04/09/2011 7:10:30 AM PDT by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: topher
Bohner claimed he got the best deal he could

This statement from Bohner ranks right up there with "You have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency".

Anyone remember who uttered those words and in so doing, proclaimed his race utterly done?

76 posted on 04/09/2011 7:10:40 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Gipper08

Yep. Boehner lost as soon as they passed $30 billion in cuts through the House. Wait... gotta throw a bone to the Tea Party, let’s make it $61 billion. That’s $61 billion out of a $1.6 trillion deficit, or 3.8% of the deficit. That is not a serious proposal. So we end up with $39 billion in cuts, and the Democrats are laughing.

I believe Rand Paul proposed $500 billion in cuts. Which I note is still around only a third of the deficit, but at least that would have been a serious proposal. If we used that as our starting point for negotiations, we’d have $150 - 250 billion cut by now, not $39 billion. I fear these are not serious people in charge of the GOP.


77 posted on 04/09/2011 7:12:37 AM PDT by Big E
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To: topher

This piece on HotAir seems to be a decent summary...

http://tinyurl.com/3pmclql


78 posted on 04/09/2011 7:15:05 AM PDT by CheezyD
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To: backwoods-engineer

“I’m ready NOW.”

I realized that I was overgeneralizing when I implied no one was ready to sacrifice to save the country as it is.

But it does seem like roughly half of the people out here aren’t yet ready to give up their government goodies - or pay for them. They just want their goodies and think they will come by magic.


79 posted on 04/09/2011 7:17:30 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts))
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To: backwoods-engineer

Much like the union thugs in Wisconsin, the moochers on the Federal level can rant and rave all they want, but it won’t change the fiscal situation one iota. We’re staring down the barrel of a massive, generational financial collapse. It’s about time the “leadership” recognized the dire circumstances they’ve put us in with their free-spending ways and act with the deliberate urgency they had when they voted all this nonsense into law. Color me cynical, but I just don’t see that happening at all......


80 posted on 04/09/2011 7:19:55 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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