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Trump is Right and is Now Turning to the Real Issue – What is a ‘Natural Born Citizen?’
The International News Magazine ^ | April 11, 2011 | Zach Jones

Posted on 04/10/2011 4:52:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: CommieCutter

Good stuff...thanks. I use the McCain info as a rebuttal to libs in my neighborhood who ridicule “birthers.” “Well, McCain produced his and it’s online for all to see. Why doesn’t Obama do the same and get this over with?”


21 posted on 04/10/2011 6:04:21 PM PDT by whinecountry (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the first time I’ve seen or heard this issue clearly defined. It’s not about Kenya vs Hawaii, it’s about the citizenship status of the parents. That’s how you avoid Manchurian Candidates, like the one in the Oval Office. I’d also like to see how relinquishing (and resumption) of citizenship plays out vis a vis the Constitution.


22 posted on 04/10/2011 6:15:33 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: FormerACLUmember

Bump.


23 posted on 04/10/2011 6:18:47 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: SatinDoll

Who is this missionary woman? Please elaborate and cite your sources.


24 posted on 04/10/2011 6:37:58 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: pawdoggie

If one were to have relinquished and then taken up US citizenship once again, then one would have to be naturalized, legally speaking. That’s not natural born.

It’s about more than citizenship, it’s about avoiding competing legal claims by another jurisdiction. Look to John Jay’s recommendations, look to various Founders’ comments regarding the avoidance of foreign entanglements. They didn’t want a President and Commander-in-Chief of the military to be beholden in any way to any foreign power.


25 posted on 04/10/2011 6:48:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Donald Trump

born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Married January 1936. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

26 posted on 04/10/2011 6:51:11 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: bergmeid

Great going Zach......

Perhaps, the DNC should start looking for another candidate in 2012. Obanana is on his way out, and don’t let the door hit your ass.


27 posted on 04/10/2011 7:04:43 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t forget he is hiding everything else also...College transcripts etc!


28 posted on 04/10/2011 7:08:26 PM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: dajeeps

I think you can rest assured his motivation is not nefarious — like the current POTUS.


29 posted on 04/10/2011 7:10:18 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (lee lexico desozibed)
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To: hapnHal

Some pundits sidestep the claim that Obama is not a ‘natural-born-citizen’ and dust off the discredited argument that newspaper birth announcements prove Obama was born in Hawaii.

Unlike classified ads, the newspaper birth announcements were not placed by individuals-—the announcements were automatically generated from health department data. They would have been generated by anyone reporting a birth to the state even if the birth occurred in a foreign country.

Another often used argument is that Obama has produced his birth certificate. The Certification of Live Birth (COLB) that Obama’s campaign released is a short summary of a birth record that does not necessarily indicate a Hawaiian birth. At the time, COLBs were issued even if the birth occurred in a foreign country and would automatically result in the printing of a birth announcement.


30 posted on 04/10/2011 7:13:36 PM PDT by westcoastwillieg
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To: FormerACLUmember

LOL! Priceless comments... I bet Trump could pull more votes than any other Republican candidate right now.

I would love to see a Trump/Bachmann ticket.


31 posted on 04/10/2011 7:21:20 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: whinecountry
When asked to do so McCain produced his long form. You can see it online right now. Why doesn’t Barry just do the same and end this?

No he didn't. The birth certificate floating around the Web is a (bad) fake.

32 posted on 04/10/2011 7:22:24 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: dajeeps

Yanno, I’m an “angry guy” too. Angry that my country has been usurped by a lying Marxist S.O.B., who, regardless of his natural-born status, is not “of” America, he grew up in a very foreign way of life and in a foreign country for much of it.

I’m angry that my 2 year old son is already in debt.

I’m angry that half the people in this country have no clue about anything.

I’m angry that our nation has been taken advantage of and disrespected for too long.

Sounds like I have a lot in common with Trump.


33 posted on 04/10/2011 7:54:12 PM PDT by RockinRight ([insert tagline here])
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To: dajeeps

That’s Trump’s way though. He starts off pulling you in, getting your interest level up. The initial part of the sale.

Then he slowly starts dripping in more info to close the sale.


34 posted on 04/10/2011 7:57:59 PM PDT by RockinRight ([insert tagline here])
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
somone posted this on FR a few days ago but I dont recall who..

...The Constitution DOES affirm the NBC clause, as it was delineated in “Law of Nations.”

EXCERPT 3: U.S. Constitution, Article I, §8: The Congress shall have Power…To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations....

what are the ramifications of this?

35 posted on 04/10/2011 8:04:13 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: westcoastwillieg

Thr operative word here is “Natural Born Citizen.” Both parants must be US citizens. Clearly this is not the case. Arguments have been presented on what is a NBC. Our courts have stonewalled the issue. There are many other issues on O’s background that need to be answered. Let’s hope that O is exposed before the 2012 primaries.

Donald could shut the door on Obama. Let’s hope Donald finishes the job!


37 posted on 04/10/2011 8:24:07 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: pfsmd

This question is hypothetical at best. the Courts will NEVER take up this question since any litigant will have to surmount the insuperable barrier of constitutional standing in this case to be heard in federal court.


38 posted on 04/10/2011 8:24:54 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: pfsmd

Or (eeek!) Pelosi, since she was Speaker of the House at the time of the election?

Or Cheney, since he was the sitting VP at the time?


39 posted on 04/10/2011 8:25:53 PM PDT by RockinRight ([insert tagline here])
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It seems to me that this wouldn’t be an issue if BO simply acted like an American let alone a natural born citizen. We love our country. We don’t want to fundamentally change what we have. We wear American flag pins on our lapels. We place our hand over our heart when we say the pledge of allegiance. We believe that “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”


40 posted on 04/10/2011 8:31:01 PM PDT by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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