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Arizona Senate approves 'birther' bill
abc15 ^ | 13 Apr 2011 | Ass Press

Posted on 04/13/2011 1:27:53 PM PDT by for-q-clinton

PHOENIX - The Arizona Senate has approved a revised bill requiring presidential candidates to prove they are U.S. citizens eligible to run for the office.

The bill approved Wednesday gives candidates additional ways to prove they meet the constitutional requirements to be president.

It was prompted by the ongoing claim by some that there is no proof President Barack Obama was born in the United States and is therefore ineligible to be president.

Democrats argued the bill exceeds the state's authority and say state officials are not fully qualified to determine the validity of a candidate's documents.

Republicans argue the U.S. Constitution gives state legislatures the right to determine how federal elections are conducted.

The bill now goes to the House for a final vote.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama
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I guesss this is what we need. But obama probably won't win arizona anyway so he could skip it and this would be moot. We need a close state to pass this...like Florida or Ohio.
1 posted on 04/13/2011 1:27:54 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
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Already here...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2704261/posts

with 100 replies.


2 posted on 04/13/2011 1:30:25 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A Birther: One who has questions or concerns over the birth of Barry Barack Hussein Soetero Obama)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Admin Moderator

thanks. I did a search and it didn’t return.
I may have chosen keywords instead of titles.

Admin please remove.


3 posted on 04/13/2011 1:33:54 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton

At the same time Governor Brewer vetoed a bill to protect Christians from being fired for being Christian.


4 posted on 04/13/2011 1:37:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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say state officials are not fully qualified to determine the validity of a candidate's documents.

Who in Hell's Bells IS qualified to determine eligibility?

Right now, eligibility, apparently, is determined in secret, by political hacks, using an unknown, unstated standard of eligibility, with no ability to challenge or remedy their determination.

5 posted on 04/13/2011 1:47:10 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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He probably would lose Az. But to not even be listed because zer0 won’t, can’t, meet the minimum qualifications sends a big old flag up the pole.


6 posted on 04/13/2011 1:54:09 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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I hope all states follow too. We have an imposter in the White House that has paid over 2 million dollars fight the release of his birth certificate. Anyone with over 90 IQ can put two and two together.


7 posted on 04/13/2011 1:54:56 PM PDT by Sprite518
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If he skips Arizona, he opens up a completely new can of worms.

What is he hiding, anyway?


8 posted on 04/13/2011 1:58:14 PM PDT by tcrlaf (2012 Slogan: "You'd Have To Be Insane, To Vote For Hussein!")
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This is bad news for anti-birther Romney.


9 posted on 04/13/2011 1:58:29 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: rxsid; LucyT

Ping.


10 posted on 04/13/2011 2:04:30 PM PDT by Red Steel
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I hope all states follow too.

A few states will likely follow Arizona's lead.

11 posted on 04/13/2011 2:06:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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If he skips Arizona, he opens up a completely new can of worms.

What is he hiding, anyway?

You said a MOUTHFUL with that short statement.

I didn't think of that. It would look very suspicious in fact it would add more credibility to the majority of Americans that have doubts about his eligibility.

The anti-birther / pro-illegal group have lost a lot of credibility in this day alone because of what happened in Arizona.

12 posted on 04/13/2011 2:07:10 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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If any state passes the bill, the publicity from a state excluding a presidential candidate will provide the authenticy for the MSM to dig into the issue.

However, what will likely happen is that any such bill is not going to be specific enough to the proof required. And Obama’s internet short form will be sufficient to get on the ballot in Arizona. Thus the Secretary of State would give Obama a clean pass.

But there was a candiate on several northern states last time that actually was here on a green card. He wasn’t a citizen at all. This type of test if adopted by more states could help get a non-citizen off the ballot.


13 posted on 04/13/2011 2:12:48 PM PDT by DannyTN
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From the article: "The bill approved Wednesday gives candidates additional ways to prove they meet the constitutional requirements to be president".

I didn't see any specifics mentioned, but something tells me these "additional ways" will include something that BO has (COLB?) that makes this law completely toothless. Just the pessimist in me.

I do agree with some of the previous comments i.e., whether BO can win Arizona or not, if he doesn't even get on the ballot because of this, it would be a HUGE red flag.

14 posted on 04/13/2011 2:14:45 PM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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Democrats argued the bill exceeds the state's authority and say state officials are not fully qualified to determine the validity of a candidate's documents.

Oh, that is rich. They rest their case of his eligibility on the public testimony of State of Hawaii officials, yet if a different state challenges that, claim that state officials are not qualified to judge documents. I guess they are only qualified if officials of the regime like them. It doesn't matter that he won't win Arizona. Just the fact that the incumbent president is unable to get on the ballot in one single state of the union is a big, big, big deal.

15 posted on 04/13/2011 2:20:48 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: for-q-clinton
AMENDED

ARIZONA STATE SENATE

RESEARCH STAFF

ELORA DIAZ

LEGISLATIVE INTERN

BILL BOYD

LEGISLATIVE RESEARCH ANALYST

GOVERNMENT REFORM &

BORDER SECURITY, FEDERALISM & STATES' SOVEREIGNTY COMMITTEES

Telephone: (602) 926 -3171

Facsimile: (602) 926 -3833

TO: MEMBERS OF THE SENATE

DATE: March 24, 2011

SUBJECT: Strike everything amendment to H.B. 2177, relating to presidential candidates; qualifications; affidavit

________________________________________________________________________

Purpose

Requires a presidential candidate that is for running for office to prove their eligibility to run and hold office by providing documentation that proves citizenship, age and if the candidate meets residency requirements.

Background

Article II, Section I of the Constitution of the United States, states that no person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Section 16-226 of Arizona Revised Statute defines nonpartisan elections as an election that is held by a special district and that is not held concurrently with the general election.

At a primary election, each political party entitled and intending to make nominations for the ensuing general or special election is required to, if it desires to have the names of its candidates printed on the official ballot at the general or special election, nominate its candidates for all elective, senatorial, congressional, state, judicial, county and precinct offices to be filled at the election (A.R.S. § 16-301). A nomination petition as defined in section 16-314 means the form or forms used for obtaining the required number of signatures of qualified electors, which is circulated by or on behalf of the person wishing to become a candidate for a political office.

There is no anticipated fiscal impact to the state General Fund associated with this legislation.

Provisions

1. Requires any person submitting a nomination paper for the purposes of being a candidate in a primary or nonpartisan election to include in the affidavit, reference to and attachment of all documents necessary to show that the person will be qualified at the time of the election to hold the office the person seeks.

2. Prohibits the filing officer to accept the nomination paper of a candidate if the person does not provide the affidavit and attachments required in this for proving eligibility to hold office.

3. Requires a national political party committee for a presidential candidate for a party that is entitled to continued representation on the ballot to provide to the Secretary of State, written notice of that political party’s nomination of its candidates for president and vice-president.

4. Requires a national political party committee to submit an affidavit of the presidential candidate in which the presidential candidate states the candidate’s citizenship and age and is required to attach this affidavit to the affidavit documents that prove the candidate’s age, citizenship and if the candidate has been a U.S. resident for fourteen years.

5. Requires the affidavit of the presidential candidate include references to and attachment of the following, which shall be sworn to under penalty of perjury:

a) a sworn statement or form that identifies the presidential candidate’s places of residence in the U.S. for the preceding fourteen years; and

b) a certified birth certificate that includes:

i. the date and place of birth,

ii. the names of the hospital and the attending physician, and

iii. signatures of any witnesses in attendance if applicable.

6. Prohibits the Secretary of State from placing a presidential candidate’s name on the ballot in this state if the candidate or the national political party committee fails to submit and swear to the documents listed in this section.

7. Prohibits the Secretary of State from placing a presidential candidate’s name on the ballot in this state if the Secretary of State believes that the proof of the documents submitted and sworn to do not meet the citizenship, age and residency requirements.

8. Permits a member of the House of Representatives, a member of the Senate or any other citizen of this state to initiate an action to enforce this section.

9. Makes conforming changes.

10. Becomes effective on the general effective date.

Amendments Adopted by Committee

1. Removes parental requirements needed to run for or hold office or to be put on the ballot.

2. Adopted strike everything amendment.

Senate Action

GR 3/23/2011 DPA/SE 5-1-1-0

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http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/50leg/1r/summary/s.2177gr_strikermemo_caucus-floor.doc.htm&Session_ID=102

16 posted on 04/13/2011 2:22:10 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Abercrombie's Obama BC
17 posted on 04/13/2011 2:24:21 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Go get ‘em, AZ!!

I wouldn’t worry that there’s another thread on this—yours is a different source—thus a confirming source.


18 posted on 04/13/2011 2:41:18 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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Thanks. Here’s to the great state of AZ doing the right thing and getting this passed and in place prior to 2012! And yes, a few others states will hopefully follow their lead.


19 posted on 04/13/2011 2:42:38 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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The more state hoops Obama has to jump through the better. And it makes the better the chance to challenge Obama in state after state, and the better the chance he just retires to golfing. :-0


20 posted on 04/13/2011 2:49:25 PM PDT by Red Steel
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