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Poll: 45% of Republicans say Obama born abroad
Orange County Register ^ | April 22, 2011 | Martin Wisckol

Posted on 04/24/2011 12:28:26 AM PDT by South40

A New York Times poll found that 45 percent of Republicans and 25 percent of all adults surveyed believe that President Barack Obama was born abroad. It’s question No. 72 on (Page 8 ) of the poll results.

That’s an increase over a year ago, when 20 percent of adults surveyed thought Obama was not U.S. born.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abroad; birthcertificate; born; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 04/24/2011 12:28:30 AM PDT by South40
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To: South40

Was Obama’s mother in Kenya for 10 years? If Obama was born in Kenya, we know that he was in Kenya at 7 years old for three years until 10 years old. 10 years seems like a long time to be in Kenya for Obama’s mother and child. This whole thing is confusing. I can’t believe that Obama’s mother would be away from her parents for that long.


2 posted on 04/24/2011 12:36:01 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: South40

It’s NOT the where, it’s the fact that his father wasn’t a citizen, therefore no Natural Born Citizen, unless the LFBC shows an American citizen as his father, which negates the whole “Story of Obama”, rendering him a common fraud and liar.

It’s a no-win scenario for The Won. He’s a fraud either way.


3 posted on 04/24/2011 12:44:08 AM PDT by Cololeo
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To: South40

“A New York Times poll” = add at least 20% to the total

And “republicans” should be replaced with “Americans”


4 posted on 04/24/2011 12:51:21 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: South40

Hmmm, Obama was born a broad, that explains a lot.


5 posted on 04/24/2011 12:53:19 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Cololeo

>> it’s the fact that his father wasn’t a citizen

That fact bears no intrigue. Seriously, no one gives a crap.


6 posted on 04/24/2011 12:53:46 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: napscoordinator

With numbers like that we should back off any accusations about him being in Kenya and now just keep asking the question:

Why does he keep his records private? What would he be hiding?

Like the drive-by media does. While the fires of Obama’s elibility burn througout America we will now attack him on gas prices, the debt, jobs, the QUAGMIRE in Libya and every once in a while come back to the BC and ask: What are you hiding?


7 posted on 04/24/2011 12:55:34 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan
... gas prices ...

This is big trouble for him. If it goes to five dollars ... six dollars, what's he gonna do? Come back out and say there's no easy answer? Get lost loser.

8 posted on 04/24/2011 1:00:15 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: tsowellfan
With numbers like that we should back off any accusations about him being in Kenya and now just keep asking the question:

Why does he keep his records private? What would he be hiding?

That's been my position all along. I don't know where he was born. But I do know he refuses to release his personal history which begs the question of why.

9 posted on 04/24/2011 1:00:49 AM PDT by South40 (Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Gene Eric

You may not care, but it IS a Constitutional requirement that has never been amended. Natural Born Citizen, not beholden to any other countries, no other allegiances, no question of loyalties.

Obviously it’s important, because look where the usurper is trying to take us.


10 posted on 04/24/2011 1:01:14 AM PDT by Cololeo
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To: Gene Eric

I found an obit on Obama’s dad. It says he (his dad) was Kenyan.

Here’s what’s going on. The media keeps ignoring talking about the longform and playing games like they did with Michele Bachmann because they know Obama has an eligibilty problem regarding the birthplace of his dad. Pure and simple.

Now we may learn something new about Obama and maybe not but I truly believe they are keeping the word “longform” out of their vocabulary and also playing stupid in the interviews because they know Obama’s dad is the problem on the document.

They say.. “what? Longform? But but but this here is based on the original birth certificate... look it says Obama was born in Hawaii. That’s settled. He’s eligible.”

The media knows exactly why we’re wanting the longform. They are playing stupid. During an interview on this issue they never mention Obama’s parents. Nothing about Obama’s father. We know why. He’s foreign.


11 posted on 04/24/2011 1:02:46 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Cololeo

>> You may not care

I do care, and was voicing cynicism. G’night FRiend.


12 posted on 04/24/2011 1:04:18 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: tsowellfan

The media you speak of is an arm of the Left; they’re not in the game of objectivity.

I’m out. Happy Easter.


13 posted on 04/24/2011 1:06:10 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Gene Eric

Some of us that are in Law Enforcement, like to think that we are a Nation of Laws, rather than a nation of men. It’s kind of nice to think that the law is the law, and not subject to the whims of current political correctness.

If the NBC requirement of the Constitution can be ignored, what else can be? It doesn’t take much to stretch that argument into an “Anything Goes” mindset.


14 posted on 04/24/2011 1:06:28 AM PDT by Cololeo
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To: South40; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000

15 posted on 04/24/2011 1:08:30 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Cololeo

>> Some of us that are in Law Enforcement, like to think that we are a Nation of Laws

I hear ya’. We all need to remember what we really care about... we all want to be free like kids on the last day of the school year... We worked for it, we deserve it.

Godspeed FRiend!


16 posted on 04/24/2011 1:10:28 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: South40
That's been my position all along. I don't know where he was born. But I do know he refuses to release his personal history which begs the question of why.

I too have no clue what all he is hiding. But he did not build up these walls while claiming transparency all by himself. AND I do not think that his belief that 'he won' is going to keep hidden forever whatever is being hidden. Somebody in the know is going to have an open door slammed in their face and then the walls will crumble all around him.

It is not a good idea to be indebted to another liberal.

17 posted on 04/24/2011 1:11:11 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: South40
which begs the question of why

My guess is:

The only reason he's hiding his BC is because of the nationality of his dad.

Other documents he hides because I think he used more than just one passport. I think he gave up his citizenship to go to Indonesia. That's why there are no school records. It would expose it.

And the hiding of other documents... (it all goes down hill from here)...

I think he was not a citizen after coming back from Indonesia and that may be why he's got some old lady's SSN.

I also have a hunch he has no law degree. In fact much of what he has claimed about his professional life is false.

Michelle had a law license and everything ever filed by Obama was actually done under her name not his. Obama (I think) was working under her law license. And this may be why he's hiding most of his college records. He's a fraud.

That's just my opinion.

18 posted on 04/24/2011 1:11:40 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: dr_lew

Yes, I live in the northeast and we use oil here to heat our homes.

I’m not looking forward to the winter. I’m afraid that landlords are going to be raising the rent even more here.

And my 76 year old retired mother has a home and I hate to see how much it’s going to cost to keep the house heated.

At $4 a gal people here were taking loans out from the bank to just to buy oil for a month.


19 posted on 04/24/2011 1:16:57 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Gene Eric

So when we get to the point that every law has special exemptions, where are we if not in anarchy?


20 posted on 04/24/2011 1:18:31 AM PDT by Cololeo
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To: HerrBlucher

We’re not sure, because if he has any balls, Moochelle has them locked away.


21 posted on 04/24/2011 1:21:47 AM PDT by Cololeo
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To: Cololeo
where are we if not in anarchy?

We are close to it for sure. We have a pastor in jail for just talking about protesting.

22 posted on 04/24/2011 1:23:03 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan

Is this not a message as to where we are being led?


23 posted on 04/24/2011 1:28:10 AM PDT by Cololeo
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To: tsowellfan

“which begs the question of why

My guess is:

The only reason he’s hiding his BC is because of the nationality of his dad.

Other documents he hides because I think he used more than just one passport. I think he gave up his citizenship to go to Indonesia. That’s why there are no school records. It would expose it.

And the hiding of other documents... (it all goes down hill from here)...

I think he was not a citizen after coming back from Indonesia and that may be why he’s got some old lady’s SSN.

I also have a hunch he has no law degree. In fact much of what he has claimed about his professional life is false.

Michelle had a law license and everything ever filed by Obama was actually done under her name not his. Obama (I think) was working under her law license. And this may be why he’s hiding most of his college records. He’s a fraud.

That’s just my opinion. “

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I think that when the truth finally emerges, he will be shown as the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on any people in the history of civilization. The gullible will still never believe they were had as badly as they have been had.

He has gamed the system at every turn, lied, cheated and stolen his way, with no conscience, remorse or moral constraints. The Antichrist will look like an innocent schoolboy in comparison.


24 posted on 04/24/2011 1:37:54 AM PDT by Cololeo
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To: Cololeo
The Antichrist will look like an innocent schoolboy in comparison

In fact I think the antichrist is running back to the drawing board with his tail between his legs

25 posted on 04/24/2011 1:40:03 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan

I have seen the worst of the worst become thoroughly disgusted at the actions that others will commit on innocents. Humanity itself has a built-in disgust with truly anti-social behavior.


26 posted on 04/24/2011 1:46:11 AM PDT by Cololeo
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To: South40

He wasn’t born, he was hatched. Like a reptile. And pretty sure he was hatched on some alien planet.


27 posted on 04/24/2011 2:05:24 AM PDT by Newtoidaho (Liberals: drooling buffoons (politicians/media/ bureaucrats) backed by satanic goons (union thugs).)
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To: South40
45 percent of Republicans and 25 percent of all adults surveyed believe that President Barack Obama was born abroad

The Diversion Continues.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House he is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

28 posted on 04/24/2011 2:36:38 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: South40

That’s just the fringe element of the Republican Party. /s


29 posted on 04/24/2011 3:41:29 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Cololeo

Absolutely! I have seen that as the fight of our times since Algore tried to steal the 2000 election. He failed but it was a tough fight. The things Clintoon got away with had me very concerned but that post-election mess made it clear to me that it was an all out fight, for the libs, to destroy every vestige of the rule of law.


30 posted on 04/24/2011 3:55:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Cololeo
That is why I am convinced that the courts, at every level, are avoiding this issue like it was plutonium.

Based on the facts as they are readily understandable, there is no way that any judge is going to be able to declare that Obama a naturally born citizen. Alas, to most Americans, that's a frivolous technicality (as witnessed by the fact that there has been no hue or cry on that point) so that means the only safe options the judges have is to avoid ruling at all.

So far, they have been able to do just that.

But things are a lot different now than they were in those weird days prior to Obama's election and I am sure that if is proven that he was indeed born overseas, at an age when his mother was too young to confirm citizenship, a majority of the country would be willing to boot his butt right out of the White House.

31 posted on 04/24/2011 3:58:31 AM PDT by Ronin ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves" -- Bertrand de Jouve)
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To: Cololeo
He’s a fraud either way.

Bingo, We have a Winner!

BTT

32 posted on 04/24/2011 4:06:15 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: South40

all this tells me is that the majority of republicans are slow to pickup on what was available since before the election

“Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.”

http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm


33 posted on 04/24/2011 4:06:23 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: Gene Eric
... we all want to be free like kids on the last day of the school year...

We all want to be free like kids on the first day of the school year too. To take our seat at the next level of responsibility that we have earned and have the opportunity to succeed or fail by our own merits to try and attain another level of achievement.

It is the rule of law and equal justice under it that is one of the few proper roles of government and one we must demand it provides and that the people in government live by as well.

34 posted on 04/24/2011 4:07:15 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Ronin

You may be right about the motivations of our judges and justices but that is an absolutely cowardly way to administer the law. There is no honor or proud tradition in acting on those lawless impulses however they may justify it with rationalizations of short term comfort for themselves or for the nation.


35 posted on 04/24/2011 4:12:43 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: tsowellfan

” I think he gave up his citizenship to go to Indonesia.”

I asked that question yesterday, and was informed thusly;
“The fact that Indonesia does not accept dual citizenship does not mean that Obama lost his U.S. citizenship. Indonesian law has no impact on U.S. citizenship. U.S. law governs the ways that people can lose U.S. citizenship, and merely taking on foreign citizenship is not sufficient. Losing U.S. citizenship requires (1) an intent to renounce U.S. citizenship, and (2) that the person be 18 years of age or older.”


36 posted on 04/24/2011 4:14:24 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Wouldn’t that depend upon what his stepfather did in his name? Those records are unavailable too.


37 posted on 04/24/2011 4:22:18 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: South40

“Yes but but but mister media you keep telling me no one believes this charge. You won’t lie would you mister media?”


38 posted on 04/24/2011 4:30:35 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Cololeo

I was in Isolo, Kenya, when Barak Obama’s cousin was campaigning for office. I was in a hotel, they asked us to leave as the campaign of the cousin was coming to town. The hotel owner, and many business leaders in Meru said everyone in Kenya knew he was born in Kenya, and taken to be registered in Hawaii. They didn’t understand the fuss, but that he was born in Kenya, it was commonly accepted..


39 posted on 04/24/2011 4:33:32 AM PDT by rovenstinez (,)
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To: TigersEye
I agree completely.

However, I suppose it's human nature not want to be dragged out of your courtroom by an angry mob and strung up from the nearest lamp-post. And, while that may not be a certainty, it's certainly a possibility in some parts of the country. Add in all the speculation about potential race war and it's easy to understand why the black-robed brigade is MIA in this fight.

But they don't deserve all the blame. Most members of the House of Representatives and Senate have Law degrees. They know just as well as the judges do that Obama is not qualified. Yet not ONE of them -- including all the Republicans we generally accept as Conservative -- have pointed to the issue of Obama's dual nationality and said "look folks, based on the way we define "natural born citizen", this guy is not qualified."

Now all that might have worked previously, and since the MSM has kept their lips safety-locked to Obama's rectum, as long as nobody wandered off the reservation, it might have worked all the way through the 2012 election.

Unfortunately for them, with Obama's popularity in the pits and getting worse, there is a hint of blood in the water and the sharks have begun to circle.

Interesting times...

40 posted on 04/24/2011 4:43:26 AM PDT by Ronin ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves" -- Bertrand de Jouve)
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To: ASA Vet; Cololeo; TigersEye
Amazing, and hopeful, to see at least three anywhere who understand the real issue. To add to it, Obama defined his citizenship thus: “I am a native-born citizen of the U.S.” That is the definition from Title 8, USC, for a naturalized citizen. A search of the INS Code for natural born or natural-born turns up only the Constitution. He told us the truth, and every Senator surely knew, since they all signed Sen Res 511, Apr 2008, clearly stating that to be a natural born citizen requires parents who are citizens.

Smart people simply don't know the law. It is an obscure part of our Constitution. Saturday, Victor Davis Hanson sadly showed his ignorance, equating jus soli - born on our soil - citizenship with natural born citizenship. We need to help others understand. The law takes a bit of reading, but it is clear and unequivocal. Perhaps the clearest, though not the most concise, in Chief Justice Morrison Waite in Minor v. Happersett:

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

41 posted on 04/24/2011 4:55:27 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Cololeo
“Natural Born Citizen, not beholden to any other countries, no other allegiances, no question of loyalties.

Obviously it’s important, because look where the usurper is trying to take us.”

YES, Obummer is the poster child for the need for Natural Born Citizenship. Our founding fathers were indeed divinely inspired.

42 posted on 04/24/2011 5:18:55 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Ronin

Yes it is human nature and no it wasn’t all the fault of the judiciary and didn’t even start with them. It didn’t start with this issue either. But that cowardice only gives the temporary safety Ben Franklin spoke of. Ultimately it leads to ever greater erosion of the rule of law. The consequences of actions are inevitable.


43 posted on 04/24/2011 5:28:32 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: dr_lew

This is big trouble for him. If it goes to five dollars ... six dollars, what’s he gonna do? Come back out and say there’s no easy answer? Get lost loser.

He’s going to tell you to buy a new car that gets better mileage. OOPS. He has already done that. What a simplistic nerd for a president.


44 posted on 04/24/2011 5:34:31 AM PDT by chainsaw ("The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else.")
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To: Spaulding
It appalls me that so many elected officials and highly respected pundits are so ignorant of the basic principles involved here however obscure they are in practical expression of the law. It is still a fundamental founding principle and the documents are not that voluminous or hard to understand. People are too easily mislead by sophistry and prone to be convinced of moral guilt by rationalizations that lack true cause.

Understanding the truth rarely requires mental gymnastics and the truth itself has no respect for the pain or pleasure it may cause any particular person or persons in general. The truth is what it is just as a log in the road is what it is and has no regard for whether one man wrecks his car on it or another picks it up and uses it for firewood.

45 posted on 04/24/2011 5:42:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: chainsaw

Double your savings. Buy two tire gauges. /s


46 posted on 04/24/2011 5:44:13 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: napscoordinator

Where, exactly, did you see that Obama was in Kenya at seven years old?


47 posted on 04/24/2011 5:56:00 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: tsowellfan

48 posted on 04/24/2011 6:55:49 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: SF_Redux

Obama won the first race he ran by disqualifying his opponent. Then he won the US Senate because his campaign dug up dirt on the opponent.

Karma’s a bitch!


49 posted on 04/24/2011 7:02:15 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

by John Charlton

“Race Bannon,” U.S. Marine who heard Obama’s “confession.”
(Dec. 3, 2009) — The stunning admission was made to a member of the U.S. Marine Corps, in a chance meeting in the vicinity of Kalakaua Blvd., one evening in early August of 1980.

The now, former Marine is a highly respected member of the Free-Republic online-community, and he has published the account of his personal meeting with the then Barry Soetero online at the Gathering of the Eagles Blog. After the divorce of Barry’s mother from his adopted father, Lolo Soetero, he began using the name “Barack Hussein Obama,” by which he is known the world over, today. At the Free Republic, the ex-Marine goes by the nik “Race Bannon.”

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born-in-mombasa-kenya/


50 posted on 04/24/2011 7:15:41 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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