[driftless2]

"derivative"

Yeah, I guess that's why all the northern volunteers signed up for the federal army after Lincoln asked for volunteers. They wanted to defend states rights, I guess.

[phi11yguy19]

"derivative"
Yeah, I guess...(some rambling nonsense)

Only those who lack information need to guess...

Ex parte Knowles, 5 Ca. 300, 302 (1855):
By metaphysical refinement, in examining our form of government, it might be correctly said that there is no such thing as a citizen of the United States. But constant usage - arising from convenience, and perhaps necessity, and dating from the formation of the Confederacy - has given substantial existence to the idea which the term conveys. A citizen of any one of the States of the Union, is held to be, and called a citizen of the United States, although technically and abstractly there is no such thing. To conceive a citizen of the United States who is not a citizen of some one of the states, is totally foreign to the idea, and inconsistent with the proper construction and common understanding of the expression as used in the constitution, which must be deduced from its various other provisions. The object then to be obtained, by the exercise of the power of naturalization, was to make citizens of the respective states.

Shall we take a poll to see who's the big tool in the room?

Keep on guessing at your "history". One day you'll have a fantastic tale to tell your grandkids.

[Who is John Galt?]

pg19: Prior to the 14th, state citizenship was primary, and U.S. citizenship was the derivative.

d2: Yeah, I guess that's why all the northern volunteers signed up for the federal army after Lincoln asked for volunteers. They wanted to defend states rights, I guess.

Actually, the vast majority of "northern volunteers signed up" for service with State units (the 2nd, 6th & 7th Wisconsin, for example, in the 'Iron Brigade'). They were, in effect, State militia units. The actual "federal army" remained relatively small throughout the hostilities.

Thanks for bringing up the point!

;>)