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To: IMissPresidentReagan
Request for Rush fan freeper help:

In the first hour monologue, Rush read an email of someone who said the BC could be opened in Adobe Illustrator and shown to be a fake. Does anyone have the transcript of that?

I would like to put one of my graphic artists on that to see if there is any merit to the claim. But I will need the step by step process that was described.

105 posted on 04/27/2011 11:15:05 AM PDT by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: Never on my watch

It came from a comment in the Smoking Gun article I believe. I was looking for it too.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/barack-obama/birth-obama-certer-movement-098513

“Submitted by Dr.Guru on Wed, 2011-04-27 14:03.
I get a kick out of all the individuals who, when confronted by something disturbing, automatically resort to name-calling. Even worse, is the bevy of ignoramuses I see on the web and news who, working under the mantra of, “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil” condemn others for using critical thought and questioning something instead of blindly following a notion with religious-like faith (there, that should have irritated most every non-thinker on this site). That being said, the posted PDF on the whitehouse.gov site is weapons grade ‘bull-onium”. I am not Adobe certified (who cares), but I do know most of the tricks of the Adobe Creative suite package and use them all the time in forensic work (both in and out of the courtroom setting). The document posted isn’t even a good attempt at a hoax (a real disappointment since one would expect better, even for a fraudulent document). Acrobat does not create multiple layers by default of a scanned image (which is what this is supposed to be), and especially in really convenient locations for editing purposes. A scanned document should consist of a single graphical layer composed of pixels and no vector content. Yet this is not what is seen in the whitehouse.gov PDF file. One can readily remove most of the typewritten text from the document in Adobe Illustrator (an impossibility for a purely honest scanned document) as well as manipulate the dates stamped on it (again separate objects and an impossibility for an honest document). I was easily able to substitute my brother’s name for Obama’s as a proof of principle (and to irritate him). My modified PDF has no structural differences than the one posted by the White House. How can this be??? Even the Adobe Acrobat Pro software indicates that the file has been edited and contains deleted and cropped content. How can you have deleted and cropped content on a purely honest scanned document. You can’t, that’s the point. I now relinquish the dais back to the name-calling.””


110 posted on 04/27/2011 11:30:03 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (You go to war with the President you have Not the President you wish you had. D Rumsfeld)
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To: Never on my watch

I don’t have transcript, but see below related to your question. Many posts on both threads.
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To: All

Whoa. I was listening to Rush just now...and he was talking about an email he received from someone who said that this document is an obvious fraud...and here’s how you can check.

Download the PDF from above and open it in Adobe Illustrator, and you can see all the layers showing how the document was pieced together.

So... I did. I downloaded the file...and opened it in Illustrator...and indeed... this document has been pieced together. It’s a layered file. You can click and hide various layers until the screen is blank.

Now... look. I’m tired of this stupid argument. I really am. But as a graphic artist, I can tell you that if someone scanned in an image and saved it as a PDF, it would have been a solid, single layer. The only way that I know of for it to be broken down into layers is if it had been manipulated and created digitally.

Feel free to call me a whatever...but see for yourself if what that person Rush mentioned said is right.

849 posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:08:58 PM by PowerPro (Conservative Revolution Reborn! Palin/West 2012)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711155/posts?page=849#849
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See new aphid post #984 on this thread
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and related thread on layering I previously cross-posted by RED SOUTH

Obama’s Birth Certificate, Dissected
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711307/posts


115 posted on 04/27/2011 12:08:31 PM PDT by thouworm
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