Note the chromatic aberration! Obviously, it's a fake!
Posted on 04/30/2011 8:37:33 PM PDT by Triple
Natural Born Citizen = Born on U.S. soil, to two U.S. citizens.
Father was a foreigner, mother not old enough according to the laws at the time, to convey citizenship to anybody.
If Obama was not born on U.S. soil, not only isn't he an Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, “Natural Born Citizen”, he isn't a U.S. citizen AT ALL. He would be an illegal alien who should be deported.
You need to go here http://www.birthers.org/misc/logic.htm
and study up on this topic. BE INFORMED. Most are not.
NONSENSE!
I understand “Natural Law” full well, and that is a BOGUS argument in this matter.
WRONG!! Under the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 (which was the law when he was born), with one citizen parent and 1 alien (nationality) parent if the child is born outside the U.S. Stanley Ann Dunham is too young to effectively transfer citizenship to her offspring. He would not even be a U.S. Citizen. Much less a "natural born" U.S. Citizen as the Constitution requires....FACT!
Note the chromatic aberration! Obviously, it's a fake!
Have you noticed that you can’t back up anything you say and that I can? That I can logically articulate and you cannot. I’ll bet others have.
Father was a foreigner, mother not old enough according to the laws at the time, to convey citizenship to anybody.
If Obama was not born on U.S. soil, not only isn't he an Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, “Natural Born Citizen”, he isn't a U.S. citizen AT ALL. He would be an illegal alien who should be deported.
You need to go here http://www.birthers.org/misc/logic.htm
and study up on this topic. BE INFORMED. Most are not.
I have studied this for over 2 years, there is no doubt in my mind that the founders meant Born on U.S. soil, to two U.S. citizens. NO DOUBT. Google Leo Donofrio and be prepared to spend some time.
A stealth troll is trying to bait you while laughing in your face. Let the scum float along on its own. Down in the South, when pondscum floats to the surface it’s time to treat the water. Sadly, FR is currently being choked by the pondscum floating out of Axelrod’s astroturf underwear. It wouldn’t matter what you post to show the troll the facts, the talking points are all such dishonest people care about ... leave the pondscum to recite their script. Their recitations don’t make them true and there isn’t a thing we cwaqn do so long as they’re allowed to triple and quardruple tems anyone. If you persist in responding to the scum they have fellow underwear drones who come out praising their cogent comments ... and you know the names of the ones surfacing the past few days to serve their halfrican little god.
So the founders intended that a child could be born to two foreign parents temporarily in the United States. Those parents could then leave the US and raise the child in some other country. That grown child could then come back to the US and become president. Is that what you are asking us to believe by your definition of natural born?
If so then what would be the point in putting it in the constitution in the first place. You are wrong. It was intended that the president always be loyal to the US and not some foreign country. The reasoning was clear. We can see the horrible effect of doing otherwise with Obama who’s loyalties are not with this country at all.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEARCH FOR STATE DEPARTMENT DOCUMENTS THAT ADMIT THEY AREN’T SURE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR NATUIRAL BORN CITIZEN FOR PRESIDENTIAL eLIGIBILITY ARTICLE 2 PURPOSES...BEFORE YOU BLOW A FUSE
Just compare the hooking serif on the leftmost 1 digit to the rightmost 1 digit in the serial number regardless of how the images were digitized.
Here’s an example to back up your statement:
On my Mom’s side, both of her parents came from Italy. My grandfather became a US citizen before my Mom was born (in the USA), my Grandmother was not a US citizen at the time.
Italy will not grant my Mom citizenship because her father was a US citizen when she was born. They could care less that her mother wasn’t a US citizen (which she became later); it’s all about the Father.
http://www.birthers.org/misc/logic.htm
Natural born for dummies. Not making any assumptions about you.
I've noticed. :-)
The document was created on a computer, not scanned off a paper copy that Obama supposedly got from Hawaii. If you watch Denniger's video, you'll see that he talks about chromatic aberration, which is a red/orange color on one side of text and a blue color on the other side that is created whenever a document is scanned. You have to increase the magnification to about 800% to see it. The document on the WH website did not have any of this aberration, which means it was never scanned. Here is something I wrote on another thread:
I’ve personally increased the magnification on a document I knew was generated on a computer. No chromatic aberration present. Then I printed the document, ran it through a color scanner and increased the magnification on the resulting PDF. Chromatic aberration was present. The lack of chromatic aberration on the PDF posted on the WH website tells me (an amateur) it was never a paper document that was scanned, but rather a document that was created on the computer. Given that supposition, the OCR layer argument doesn’t hold water with me. If anyone more knowlegdable than me can tell me how to clean up chromatic aberration after a scan then I will be happy to re-evaluate my opinion. Until then, I think it’s a hoax.
Nope. Both parents have to be citizens at his birth. Read all the posts by rxsid. It’s quite a history lesson concerning the founders defining natural born citizen. They made a distinction between citizen and natural born citizen.
Even in the Resolution that congress wrote verifying that McCain was eligible it states that both parents have to be citizens and the hell of it is Obama signed that knowing that he himself is NOT eligible himself. Talk about the height of arrogance.
Even liberal Wikipedia got it more right than you:
"Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.The grandfather provision of the "natural born Citizen" clause provided an exception to the "natural born" requirement for those persons who were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. (The first several Presidents prior to Martin van Buren, as well as potential Presidential candidates, were born as British subjects in British America before the American Revolution and this grandfather clause would cover them.)[1]
Additionally, the Twelfth Amendment states that: "[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." The Fourteenth Amendment does not use the phrase "natural born citizen". It does provide that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." [emphasis mine]
The constitutional requirement of a natural born citizen president has never been superseded by any other amendment or law.
NO, NO, NO! A natural born citizen is born of TWO citizen parents. He is INELIGIBLE.
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