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Should You Walk Away from Your Underwater Mortgage?
CBS Sacramento ^ | 28 April 2011 | Call Kurtis

Posted on 05/02/2011 12:32:17 PM PDT by Notary Sojac

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To: Notary Sojac

“If you own a home that is 50% underwater, 70% underwater, it will never ever, ever come back to where you purchased it.”

BS. BS. BS. Nobody and I mean nobody, is an expert. With the rate of inflation that will soon hit, home values will skyrocket along with them. Never say never as I learned borrowing money in 1981 at 23.5% and the banker said interest rates will never, never, never be single digit again.


21 posted on 05/02/2011 12:57:23 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: kiryandil

No, it isn’t, but I guess when you cheat on your spouse or something like that, it’s okay because your neighbor does it? If this is the only excuse you can come up with, then I guess I know where I’d stand on loaning you anything.


22 posted on 05/02/2011 1:01:17 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Notary Sojac

Any who does anything Suze Orman tells them to do is out of their mind.


23 posted on 05/02/2011 1:02:18 PM PDT by beandog
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24 posted on 05/02/2011 1:03:08 PM PDT by TheOldLady (Almost as evil as the Freeper Criminal Mastermind)
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To: pnh102

Non-Recourse States

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25 posted on 05/02/2011 1:03:29 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

If you are considering doing this, do a short-sale, don’t just walk away. Fannie, Freddie and FHA will work with you to make the deal work if you can’t get your lender to talk to you. A short-sale is much better on the debt and far less impact, both short and long-term.


26 posted on 05/02/2011 1:07:16 PM PDT by rstrahan
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To: kiryandil
It's OK for a Big Bank to walk away, because it's a "business decision"....

Agreed, but the average person doesn't have the kind of leverage needed to pull off such a business decision. Even if you discount the moral arguments, someone who is seriously considering walking away from a mortgage needs to accept that for the next few years, he will need to live with no credit, even if he really, really, REALLY needs it. On top of that, there exists a potential for being sued to recoup additional losses.

Granted, it is entirely possible that a borrower could have enough cash stashed away to survive a dry spell with no credit and even with the risk of such lawsuits... so in a business sense, it could be worth nuking one's credit.

27 posted on 05/02/2011 1:08:01 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Notary Sojac

Here’s the problem - inflation’s on the horizon. When you’re renting - the rent keeps going up... Own a home and you can keep one payment fixed.


28 posted on 05/02/2011 1:09:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (Osama bin SEALed - http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: AppyPappy
Sometimes, I just feel so damned old, especially when discussing things with younger people. There are so many situations in which I immediately know what is right to do. For younger ones, that's not so easy.

I sometimes have trouble with my Daughter in explaining to her about honesty, what's right, that your word means something, etc. I'll give her credit - she's made a tremendous improvement, especially now that she has three girls of her own.

29 posted on 05/02/2011 1:09:19 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: pnh102
Even if you discount the moral arguments, someone who is seriously considering walking away from a mortgage needs to accept that for the next few years, he will need to live with no credit, even if he really, really, REALLY needs it. On top of that, there exists a potential for being sued to recoup additional losses.

That's where declaring bankruptcy comes in - if a person must walk away they need to protect themselves...

30 posted on 05/02/2011 1:11:30 PM PDT by GOPJ (Osama bin SEALed - http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: Notary Sojac
I believe you have a moral obligation to honor a contract. If the contract calls for you to either (1) keep making the payments or (2) give up the collateral to the lender, you've honored the contract whichever one you do.

Wouldn't #2 be the consequence of your failure to honor #1 and not a preferable option? Isn't the whole contract based on the presumption of your promise to pay as per the terms of the mortgage?

31 posted on 05/02/2011 1:14:13 PM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: rstrahan

The only day I would consider doing this is the day I’ve lost everything except my house, and have no other option at all because I have nothing left to give.

I have never broken a contract in my life, in fact I couldn’t sleep at night after my repair guy forgot to add a dryer motor on to my final bill and when I called to tell him he said “forget it”, hell it bothers me now thinking of that and it was 3 years ago.

I’d starve before I took food stamps to. Heck, I would scrub septic tanks for food before I lowered myself to that level.


32 posted on 05/02/2011 1:15:52 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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That's where declaring bankruptcy comes in - if a person must walk away they need to protect themselves...

Even then you will have a hard time getting credit. In many ways it is the financial equivalent of herpes. It just keeps haunting a person for the rest of his life.

33 posted on 05/02/2011 1:17:14 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: kiryandil
"JPMorgan walks away from bad property bets | Boston Business Journal" http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/stories/2009/12/14/story11.html It's OK for a Big Bank to walk away, because it's a "business decision"....

No, it is not. What does that have to do with YOUR MORAL compass? Are you queuing up to jump off the Brooklyn Bridge?

34 posted on 05/02/2011 1:17:44 PM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: moehoward

Are you missing the point?

Anybody who defaults on a mortgage and has to borrow from friends and family then pays a $2,000 vet bill is scum.

Period. End of discussion.


35 posted on 05/02/2011 1:17:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Who else but Obama could screw up the death of Osama bin Laden?)
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To: Abathar

Ummm... I meant that as earning enough money to buy food. I reread it and I just know there are Freepers who love low hanging fruit like that last sentence....


36 posted on 05/02/2011 1:20:51 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Scum might be a little harsh.

The guy’s priorities are certainly out of whack.


37 posted on 05/02/2011 1:21:39 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

Agreed. Scum is a harsh word.


38 posted on 05/02/2011 1:23:17 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Who else but Obama could screw up the death of Osama bin Laden?)
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To: Notary Sojac

A man’s word is his bond....if you don’t live up to your word, you ain’t s—t.


39 posted on 05/02/2011 1:23:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: moehoward

It’s worse with large critters. We still owe Wazzu around $4K remaining from a $10K+ vet bill for Ginger, a beautiful Canadian mare we had to put down anyhow.


40 posted on 05/02/2011 1:24:16 PM PDT by Noumenon ("One man with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson)
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