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Use of ‘Geronimo' not offensive, expert says
NewsOK ^ | May 4, 2011 | Staff and Wire

Posted on 05/03/2011 10:30:19 PM PDT by Brandonmark

When Osama bin Laden was killed, one of the task force members communicated that “Geronimo” had been killed in action, according to a U.S. official.

That code name refers to the famed Chiricahua Apache warrior.

Geronimo was placed at Fort Sill in 1894 after several years of being pursued by the U.S. Army.

He died Feb. 17, 1909, and was buried the next day at Fort Sill.

The use of the code name is not offensive, said Towana Spivey, historian and director and curator of Fort Sill's museum.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsok.com ...


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To: Brandonmark

They are right, it’s offensive. I wanted the op to be called “F*** you, OBL and die Mfer” but it was too long.


21 posted on 05/03/2011 11:21:12 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO)
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To: TwoSwords
I’m not saying they weren’t vicious. They were. Who isn’t when they’re constantly at war. The Apache were just better at it. There are many races no longer among us because they didn’t have the stomach to take it to a level that the enemy couldn’t accept. Any race still living did similiar things to the Apache.

In agreement here. Our “Apache” helicopter ain't exactly a
koombaya piece of equipment! As my militant Scottish friend
says: “There's a reason the most devastating antipersonnel
mine ever made is not named after a French sword”.

22 posted on 05/03/2011 11:23:57 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: piytar

“I’m of German ancestry.”

####

So am I, but like you an AMERICAN first.

However, it is safe and acceptable, even here on FR to attack and disparage the entire German people for the actions of the criminal Nazis.

With the usual double standard in full force, try that with any of the protected racial or religious minorities, and there will be the usual firestorm of righteous outrage.


23 posted on 05/03/2011 11:27:23 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Brandonmark

Geronimo was a reference to Skull and Bones. For old times’ sake.


24 posted on 05/03/2011 11:51:20 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Brandonmark

I thought Macaca was more appropriate.


25 posted on 05/03/2011 11:58:21 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Brandonmark

I don’t think that even Geronimo himself would care about the use of the name. There are different stories told as to how he came to be known by it. As I understand it, it had more to do with the Mexicans than the Apache. At birth he was named Goyathlay.


26 posted on 05/04/2011 1:00:06 AM PDT by Mila
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To: TwoSwords
"I still think it was a bad choice"

Hmmm..Another member of the over-sensitive, touchy-feely, girly-man, PC brigade...Begone!

27 posted on 05/04/2011 1:11:05 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Brandonmark
what was the author's point with this article? preemptive self-flaggilation? promotion of a false legend?

Geronimo was a murderer, a kidnapper, a thief and plunderer. When he was finally captured, a kidnapped settler's boy was found with him.

The Apache had only been resident in the southwest for about 30 years prior to the Spaniards’ arrival; a large part of the apache population were actually captives taken on never-ending raids of other tribes. The Apache had a giant sense of entitlement when it came to the livestock, children, women, horses and crops of others. They maintained an aggressive and domineering relationship towards other southwest indians and towards the Spaniards and Mexicans, although for a time they did get along with the Pueblos.

The atrocities of Cochise are typical of Apache behavior towards others: “this Indian has burned alive thirteen white men that I know of, besides most cruelly torturing to death, by cutting small pieces out of them, five others; fifteen others I know by putting lariats around their necks, tied their hands behind them, and dragged them to death.” http://www.jcs-group.com/oldwest/wars/warfare1.html
on Geronimo, Bob Bell of TrueWest Magazine noted, “ He would go down into Mexico every summer and kill anyone he met. That was his idea of a vacation.” ibid

In spite of his crimes, Geronimo was allowed to live, and not only that, he capitalized on his notoriety. Liberals and special-interest groups have glorified his life and hidden the gorier details and today, over 3 million acres have been dedicated to reservations for approximately 50,000 Apache (1990 numbers).

Hopefully, that same false glossification of the terrorist Geronimo won't happen in Osama’s case.

28 posted on 05/04/2011 1:22:42 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

you forgot to add: He repented and died a Christian...
;0)


29 posted on 05/04/2011 1:38:26 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Brandonmark

Who cares and who gives a fly rats ass.


30 posted on 05/04/2011 3:35:34 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA
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To: Brandonmark
OBL's last Facebook post

31 posted on 05/04/2011 3:38:49 AM PDT by TSgt ("Some folks just need killin'" - Sling Blade (2006))
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To: Brandonmark

Bravo Zulu to the non-existant Seal Team Six, and I fully understand that you were never there,


32 posted on 05/04/2011 4:37:45 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: Brandonmark

Experts? We have ‘experts’ for this? Who are these so called experts?


33 posted on 05/04/2011 4:41:07 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Brandonmark

Experts? We have ‘experts’ for this? Who are these so called experts?


34 posted on 05/04/2011 4:41:23 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

If you want to celebrate a woman and baby-killing Apache who with a small band of followers ran amok through Southern Arizona, go right ahead.


35 posted on 05/04/2011 4:57:40 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: SuperLuminal

You nailed me. Idgit.


36 posted on 05/04/2011 11:00:01 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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