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To: allmendream
Mental pain or suffering is not mental anguish.

Huh? Anguish is excrutiating mental pain or suffering! That's the definition fo the word! Hence it follows that mental anguish is mental pain. Don't believe me? Look it up for yourself:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anguish

I don't think panic over inducing a drowning reflex is a disruption of the senses or personality - they are making them quite aware of the sense of drowning - I don't think panic over inducing a drowning reflex is a disruption of the senses or personality - they are making them quite aware of the sense of drowning - not disrupting that sense.

Dude, you are grasping at straws here. They are creating a sense of drowning when in point of fact the person is not drowning. If that's not a disruption of the senses, nothing is.

39 posted on 05/05/2011 10:20:37 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
I was in anguish after my heart was broken. I was not in pain. Mental anguish may be caused by nausea, fear, disorientation, etc, etc - all having nothing to do with pain response.

Disruption of the senses was mentioned in the context of drugs - and can also involve sensory deprivation, etc. It was not written to cover “you may feel like you are drowning - but this is just a physiological response”.

There is real deal 100% unambiguous TORTURE going on - we don't do that - I think the distinction is an important one.

It is fine that you disagree, but I don't think American interests are served by saying “We torture people” when we don't do anything that comes close to what most people do when they engage in torture.

Did you read the Ann Coulter article?

Did you laugh?

40 posted on 05/05/2011 10:30:44 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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