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To: neverdem
I recently had a knee operation for a torn meniscus. The doctor gave me Hydrocodone for pain for 30 days. After the script ran out, I found I was back in pain. He gave me another MRI and found that my knee was torn again. He more or less said he wouldn't cut again until I needed a knee replacement. Well, what about the pain? I can't give you any more Vicodin, so here, try some Zip Zor. I read the side effects and there it was, about the 12th one down,...Can cause a heart attack or Tachycardia. I have high blood pressure and Tachycardia and take meds for it. He didn't care. NO MORE VICODIN! But Vicodin works fine and has no side effects for me. Well, you could get hooked and I have too many gubmint forms to fill out.

I took the Zip Zor and within a week I had to go to the ER to get my tachycardia to settle down. 4 hours of 200+ beats a minute was about to do me in. I stopped the Zip Zor. The next try was Mobic. No Vicodin. I had chest pains every day and nitro was the only relief. I stopped cold turkey. Now I sit in my Lazy Boy and use crutches to get to the bathroom. But at least I'm not hooked on drugs and no more tachycardia or chest pains. I just can't hardly walk. I wish I could get some Valium so I won't throw things at the TV, but he would have to fill out gubmint forms.

4 posted on 05/11/2011 12:40:54 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Vicodin is the only pain med that works for me. I have been on morphine while in the hospital and it did nothing for my broken femur, or when I had kidney stones. I was also recently prescribed a nsaid for neck pain following a car accident and after reading the side effects I refused to take it.


5 posted on 05/11/2011 12:43:42 AM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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P.S.

I told my Primary Dr this story and he recommended I get on an SSRI for depression. I said "Not a chance" I've seen people trying to get off SSRI's and it looks like someone on heroin. He said, What is it you have against doctors? I said, "I just told you!" I said, "Would you give me Vicodin?" He said that's up to your knee doctor.

These are America's best and brightest.

6 posted on 05/11/2011 12:46:41 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles
I have been suffering with back and knee pain since my army days.

Over the years, I have been prescribed many different pain medications and some of them have given me severe side effects and one medication, Indocin, even caused me to undergo surgery to correct the problems it caused.

NSAIDS in general caused me a lot of stomach pains and weren't very effective.

One medication Torodol, was extremely effective often stopping almost all pain within 15 minutes. I was on that for over four years. However, it has been linked to severe liver damage after one year and is no longer available in pill form even though hospitals still use in intravenously for some operations.

Darvon was completely ineffective and is now off the market due to the health problems it caused.

I was on Oxycontin for over a year but the Florida Hospital clinic didn't want to keep prescribing it for me once all the problems with Oxycontin abuse started.

Once I started with the VA clinic, Florida Hospital didn't want to bother with me any longer and was glad to get their Oxy prescription problem gone.

The VA doesn't use Oxycontin which is Oxycodone Continuous Release and uses Morphine Sustained Release instead which is much less effective for me. They finally after over five years admitted that they do use Oxycodone Immediate Release for ‘break through pain’ and I was finally able to get a prescription for that to go along with the Morphine.

I am finally getting some pain relief from the Morphine/Oxycodone combination but it took over five years of fighting with the VA clinic to get a prescribed dose which is finally providing some relief. The dose the VA is providing is still lower than what Florida Hospital was prescribing for Oxycontin alone.

I have been on narcotic pain relievers for many years now and other than the Torodol they are the only things that are effective for me.

Without exception, every NSAID that I have taken has caused me severe stomach or other problems and the only pain meds that don't cause me those problems are the opiate based pain relievers.

I do not abuse my meds and I am extremely carefiul to not overdose on any of them.
If one can avoid the narcotic addiction problem, the opiate pain relievers are the most compatible to one’s body pain relievers available.

12 posted on 05/11/2011 2:53:44 AM PDT by dglang
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To: chuckles
If I ever get to the point of so much pain that my oral fairly high doses of Vit C and rubbing castor oil on the pain does not do the job, I am interested in trying intravenous Vit C for the pain.

It makes interesting reading to google it. I know of no one who has done it but from what I read it is very effective and instead of having undesirable side effects, it actually improves your health. I do know of a doctor within reasonable driving distance who does this.

27 posted on 05/12/2011 5:35:56 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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