Posted on 05/14/2011 9:23:12 AM PDT by OwenKellogg
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Everybody should be buying a few dairy cows from local family farmers (cheapest way to buy meat)to debone & can. You'll get 175-200 quarts of meat out of every cow plus have more as ground meat.
Paper products are going sky high down the road; stock up. For the last year or so, I have every month been buying one item, 300-500-700 cans when on sale and mailing into where we live. The postal shipping ends up being the normal price kinda thing. MOst everything is dated 2015 that we get.
Soon as garden drys out, snow has just melted, I'm planting tatoes, have 400 seed tatoes to plant. All with a troy built. Man can do pretty well with thousand lb tatoes in basement and give a few thousand lb to friends who really really appreciate them.
WE have 1000 gal in ground tank, which is full. yet we heat with wood that is free for the work of cutting & hauling.
So much all of us can do to survive what is heading our way; and then once it has passed rebuild our country for our kids.
Weimar ver. 2.0
Large gardens and educate yourself on how to run a chicken coop if you have enough land.
Don’t bet on that.
One of the long-term goals on the Left is the Guaranteed Income. We already have it with the subsidies for the unemployed, the poor, the disabled. Next, it could well be proposed and passed to do something similar for the elderly with minimal SS, easily done by increasing SSI while reducing SS for someone else. If we follow the UK, it could then be extended to all university students, “school leavers” and those _looking_ for jobs, even if they have never held one.
This would be done by taxing every productive portion of society and by disallowing all SS payouts to anyone holding over a set amount of assets of any sort. These will be nothing like the sort of Federal pensions people see today after working for them. Some existing Federal pensions could also be set lower in the future to *pay* for the scheme.
People are, I think, betting that the Federal government will do anything and everything they can to keep the dollar just strong enough so that cash retains some value. They have to buy off the upper economic tier, somehow, at least in the relative short term.
I will bet that somewhere in some NGO, someone is preparing a proposal to institute guaranteed income subsidies to anyone who needs to refinance, but lacks the income to qualify. They are already still trying to force the banks to give mortgages to anyone who applies. By guaranteeing the income of these applicants, they, in effect, just buy the mortgage for them. They already do this for renters, via Section 8 and HUD. Again, as in the UK, the subsidized *council house* is taxed, so the net subsidy is actually lower than initially quoted. I get dizzy trying to understand this sort of system, but it looks to me as though they could make it work for a decade or so and that would be enough for them to implement a full-on socialist state. Think of how many government workers it would take to keep this money train rolling around the country, giving the illusion of the fabled *multiplier*.
Put nothing past the Left. How much have zerO and the donks accomplished in just three years that we thought was impossible and crazy-sounding in the beginning?
I'm surprised the leftist politicians haven't tried to mandate equal access to firearms for the underprivileged.
I'm not surprised that politicians avoid the discussion of the probability of civil unrest — at least we have Free Republic to speculate and help prepare.
Sounds like a nice place to leave.
Agreed, but the budget Ryan offered was hardly "drastic." It was timid at best, and hardly a good starting point for negotiations.
“The article doesnt discuss the effects of the inner cities rioting and looting because they will be the first casualties of this collapse. We wont only have to protect our selves from the economy but also protect ourselves from those who fall by the wayside.”
A lot of planning in my view depends on how worst your worst case scenario is. If you think that things will work out a lot like they are now, just with a lot more broke people and similar to the 1930’s, then that dictates one course of perparedness. If you expect something out of “Dawn of the Dead”, then it’s a whole different level.
Personally, I think this guy is outlining a more realistic worst case scenario than some I’ve been seeing.
Here along the Yukon, too expensive to fly feed in, so we don't do it anymore. I'd like to get 35 egg layers once again though. So many half starved predators around here. I actually had wolves in my garbage barrels last winter, a first. Had them kill/eat dogs, had them follow me on trail, but never 3 nights a day apart in my garbage. Those buggers would break into a coop or bear would do it for them.
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One can imagine what that will look like...Katrina was just a whisper of that which can come. Additional concern is even if you are prepared. Those people will be coming for what you might have. So if this goes full blown there's going to be more than chaos in our communities.
This is typical of the new Amerika. Totally dependent on the Urban lifestyle and the very system that caused all of this in the first place.
Not Obama, not the democrats, not Bernanke, not Geithner....they will tell you more lies. Stock up on ammo for self-defense. It could get nasty.
Funny, not one mention of becoming debt free or saving
I came away with a different impression: minimize debt and maximize cash.
Refinancing a home mortgage doesn’t guarantee ownership, only paying it off ensures ownership.
Arranging lines of credit is stupid - because credit lines can be canceled and there’s no guarantee you can pay it back. Working an extra shift at McDonalds is a better use of your time than “lining up lines of credit” - $50 cash plus a free dinner will pay for dinners later on.
Making yourself more valuable to an employer is not bad advice, but you’re still stuck if your employer goes under.
Stock up on cash and valuable items that are still valuable if the economy tanks - soap, gas, precious metals in trade-able amounts (silver, gold, lead in your favorite gun compatible form) and tools you and others can use.
The best and only approach is to start exercising faith in The Lord Jesus Christ. Make the decision now to surrender to his will for you! He is more than capable of being responsible for you.
How about NO debt? What good is cash when inflation goes through the roof? Hard, free and clear assets and commodities are the only thing to have in a collapse.
Looks like you and the author missed the point.
Unfortunately, the Russian system of economics meant few people but the wealthy had a hoard of necessities.
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