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Are the Jews the Chosen People?
Townhall.com ^ | May 17, 2011 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 05/17/2011 8:06:47 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: sasportas
When I end my prayers I say, "In Jesus's name I pray" because I pray to a thirty-one year old Jewish carpenter - the Chosen One who passes my prayers on to God - and intercedes on my behalf...

I believe Jews are the Chosen People - and in my own cowardly little way - I'm thankful I don't have to take the pressure and challenges they've had to face and will face in the future. My home, attic and basement will always be available to protect Jews from their enemies - my voice and heart also.

Christians are the evangelicals - recruiting heathens to the Hebrew God. Remember sasportas, we're on the same team with the Jews.

141 posted on 05/18/2011 10:24:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (Osama bin SEALed - http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: Jewbacca

I wish FR had a “like” button so I could click it for your posts...thanks!


142 posted on 05/18/2011 10:26:35 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: magritte

You’re sweet!

If there was a “like” button, you’d pick up all the threads where I vote “guilty” or “not guilty” on female defendants, and it would ruin my credibility.


143 posted on 05/18/2011 11:41:14 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: blasater1960
Where do you get this stuff? Some people take Kabbalah too far to be sure but they are not mainstream Judaism.

Mainstream Judaism is what is represented by the Karaites, not Talmudic Judaism...and certainly not the Kabbalists. You gloss over Kabbalah.
On the other hand, Chritianity is the syncretic religion. It is the original mormonism. The New Testament is "not in the (Hebrew)bible".

Read again what I said, Christianity has its syncretic elements, with a remnant that is not. Same with Judaism, the Karaites being the latter, anti-Talmud and anti-Kabbalah. Are you comparing Jesus Christ with Joseph Smith? I wonder if Dennis Prager agrees with you.
Many other religions at the time of Jesus taught..a virgin birth...resurrected gods...a sacred meal (eucharist)...a god-man hybrid savior..etc. None of these are even remotely Jewish teaching. They were grafted into the new testament by grecco-roman thought.

This is the line Albert Pike, the Luciferian, antichristian, prophet of Freemasonry, takes. Pike, you know, who says the Kabbalah is the basis of Freemasonry. Basing much of their Jewish-like religion on Solomon's temple and various other Jewish symbols. Sounds like you would have a lot in common. Are you a Mason?

144 posted on 05/18/2011 12:25:30 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas
Repost:

Where do you get this stuff? Some people take Kabbalah too far to be sure but they are not mainstream Judaism.

Mainstream Judaism is what is represented by the Karaites, not Talmudic Judaism...and certainly not the Kabbalists. You gloss over Kabbalah.

On the other hand, Chritianity is the syncretic religion. It is the original mormonism. The New Testament is "not in the (Hebrew)bible".

Read again what I said, Christianity has its syncretic elements, with a remnant that is not. Same with Judaism, the Karaites being the latter, anti-Talmud and anti-Kabbalah. Are you comparing Jesus Christ with Joseph Smith? I wonder if Dennis Prager agrees with you.

Many other religions at the time of Jesus taught..a virgin birth...resurrected gods...a sacred meal (eucharist)...a god-man hybrid savior..etc. None of these are even remotely Jewish teaching. They were grafted into the new testament by grecco-roman thought.

This is the line Albert Pike, the Luciferian, antichristian, prophet of Freemasonry, takes. Pike, you know, who says the Kabbalah is the basis of Freemasonry. Basing much of their Jewish-like religion on Solomon's temple and various other Jewish symbols. Sounds like you would have a lot in common. Are you a Mason?

145 posted on 05/18/2011 12:53:39 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: Jewbacca
Oh, the other major factor in limiting the number of Karaite Jews was the Spanish Inquisition, as they were forced to covert or die.

Was that about the time Christopher Columbus had to set sail?


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146 posted on 05/18/2011 1:07:08 PM PDT by rdb3 (Knowledge without God only produces intellectual barbarians.)
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To: sasportas

“Mainstream Judaism is what is represented by the Karaites”

Um, no. As already posted, Karaites were a sect that created itself in Iraq about 1300 years ago. It was never “mainstream” Judaism.

They prospered until the muslims and Christians killed them.

Now most reside in Israel, where they are embraced by their fellow Jewish citizens.

The fact you’ve twisted off into masonic conspiracies with the rest of your post confirms you are a nut.


147 posted on 05/18/2011 1:31:11 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: GOPJ
Remember sasportas, we're on the same team with the Jews.

It depends, if we are talking about Islam, then I would agree with you. If we are talking about the Old Testament, I would agree with you. If we are talking Jesus Christ, absolutely not. If we are talking extrabiblical literature like the Talmud and Kabbalah, absolutely not.

148 posted on 05/18/2011 1:37:12 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: Iscool
Why is it you guys can't ever tell it the way you hear it...You always have to add something or leave something out to change the story...And then pretend your story is the real one...Hagee did not say Jesus in NOT the Messiah...Hagee said Jesus did not come (the first time) as the Messiah...

Did you listen to the video? Hagee says "Jesus did not come as the Messiah"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m6pPnQjn7w

Even if Hagee said "Jesus did not come the first time as the Messiah," that would still be horribly false. Hagee is spouting heresy to ingratiate himself with the Jews.

149 posted on 05/18/2011 1:40:15 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Jewbacca

On the Karaites, mainstream from my perspective...not yours Any Jewish group that is OT only (Torah & Tanach to you guys) are the good guys in my book.

Apparently it bothers you for me to bring up the basis of Freemasonry being Kabbalah, Solomon’s temple, etc. Sorry ‘bout that. And I didn’t even mention Kabbalah is also the basis of almost every form of witchcraft and occultic group in the world. Are you running cover for your Kabbalist brethren?


150 posted on 05/18/2011 1:46:56 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

You’re a nut, a liar, and an embarassment to fundamentalist Christians like myself.


151 posted on 05/18/2011 1:55:37 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Jewbacca; rdb3
Jewbacca: Karaites were a sect that created itself in Iraq about 1300 years ago. It was never “mainstream” Judaism. They prospered until the muslims and Christians killed them.

rdb3: the other major factor in limiting the number of Karaite Jews was the Spanish Inquisition, as they were forced to covert or die.

Wikipedia uses three separate sources to show that Talmud-following Jews expelled the Karaites from Spain in the Twelfth Century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Spain#Jews_expel_Karaite_Jews_from_Spain_.28late_12th_century.29

152 posted on 05/18/2011 1:58:30 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: sasportas
Mainstream Judaism is what is represented by the Karaites, not Talmudic Judaism...and certainly not the Kabbalists. You gloss over Kabbalah.

Again...where do you get this stuff? Karaites are not mainstream Judaism. Judaism that accepts the Tanach and the Oral Law is mainstream Judaism. There are many many commandments that are impossible to keep because the Torah does not give explict instructions, for example:

Which four species do you use on Sukkot? How do you not eat blood when cooking? What does it mean "bind them as a sign upon your hand and a reminder between your eyes"? What exactly does it mean you shall do no work on Shabbat? What constitutes work?

You have to have the Oral Law to practice Judaism.

I dont gloss over Kabbalah. I said some take it too far.

Christianity has its syncretic elements, with a remnant that is not.Are you comparing Jesus Christ with Joseph Smith?

There is no such thing as Christianity that is not syncretic. It is an offshoot of Judaism. Mainstream Christianity incorporates virgin birth, ressurected god, a god-man, eating of a god-mans flesh and drinking his blood, human sacrifice for forgiveness of sin...these are all nonjudaic and foreign to the Hebrew scripture but NOT foreign to other religions of that era. No, I am not comparing Jesus to Joseph Smith...the apostle Paul? yes. The gospel writers..yes.

I dont know who Pike is, never heard of him. Kabbalah should only be studied by Jews and Noahides. It should only be taught by an Orthodox Torah observant Jew, trained to do so.

153 posted on 05/18/2011 2:04:41 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: blasater1960

“Again...where do you get this stuff?”

I suspect the voices in his head.


154 posted on 05/18/2011 2:18:46 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: blasater1960

Sarah Palin is a Jewess. Pope John Paul II was a Jew. These and other fascinating suppressed facts are found all over the ‘net and believed by posters on FR. Did I need to remind you how kooky the stuff is in the Religion Forum? Spillover is inevitable.


155 posted on 05/18/2011 2:26:17 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

“Pope John Paul II was a Jew.”

This is technically true. His mother converted to Roman Catholicism when she married her husband, and obviously raised her children Christian. I think it’s neat.

http://moderntribalist.blogspot.com/2005/12/did-pope-john-paul-ii-have-jewish.html


156 posted on 05/18/2011 2:34:47 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: jjotto

I assume by “kooky” you are referring to my bringing up the Kabbalah-Freemasonry-occultism connection. Why do you guys get so prickly when somebody brings these things up? Strange.

If there is anything kooky it is Kabbalah...and the various occult groups in the world that have sprung from it’s type of Jewish theosophy.

Why is it I sometimes feel like I’m dealing with Mormons when I deal with you guys? Mormons use every type of tactic imaginable to get people off their occultic trail.


157 posted on 05/18/2011 2:42:18 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: Kaslin

were but not are


158 posted on 05/18/2011 2:42:52 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Sarah Palin is Jewish too. Says so right here on this blog:

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/11/sarah-palin-jewish-who-knew.html


159 posted on 05/18/2011 2:45:03 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Yes, that was soundly refuted.

The RCC came out and said this was correct and was the reason PJP went into hiding when the Nazis came (Christian or no, 1/2 Jew went to the gas chambers). You can hunt for a better source, if inclined.

And I’m not surprised by this. His official biography states (then) Karol Wojtyla fell in love with a Jewish woman prior to enrolling in the seminary. They had talked of seriously of marriage.

She was taken away by the Nazis, and Wojtyla’s sadness over this eventually led him to the priesthood, where he would find comfort in serving God.


160 posted on 05/18/2011 2:52:19 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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