Posted on 05/17/2011 8:06:47 AM PDT by Kaslin
Note that the promises to Ismael and Isaac were different:
The promises regarding Ishmael were that “He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyones hand against him, and he will live in hostility
toward all his brothers. {Genesis 16:12} and that God would “make a great nation of him.” {Genesis 21:18} He did both of those through what would be come the Arabs.
The promise to Isaac was that God would “perform the oath which I swear unto Abraham your father.” {Genesis 26:3} God’s promises to Abraham continued through Isaac.
Paul teaches that it is Christians who inherit the Abrahamic promise.
"The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say 'and to seeds,' meaning many people, but 'and to your seed,' meaning one person, who is Christ." (Galatians 3:16)
"If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Galatians 3:29)
Consider
‘The Invention of the Jewish People’ Shlomo Sand and Yael Lotan
Not an easy read but informative and well researched.
Shlomo Sand studied history at the University of Tel Aviv and at the École des hautes études en sciences sociales, in Paris. He currently teaches contemporary history at the University of Tel Aviv
The comments associated with this scholarly work are fascinating. He hasn’t been killed yet.
Yes, but that particular promise was passed down in the inheritance to Joseph... and from there to Ephraim and Manasseh. It is not for the sons of Ishmael.
Rabah was also from the tribe of Ephriam as was Joshua...
Don't include the Apostles in that mess...
The original Reformers were still Catholic...They brought some of the errors of your religion along with them...
God made several promises to Abraham, starting in Genesis 12, and sealed those promises with a one-sided covenant in Genesis 15 (normally, a covenent was two-sided - I'll do this for you and you'll do that for me, sealed by both parties performing a ceremony - but Abraham didn't have to do anything). In fact, God did the covenent ceremony twice (a smoking furnace and a burning lamp) to emphasize it.
Yes, we serve an awesome God.
You are saying the Apostles believed that Jews who did not follow Jesus remained the Chosen People? Please cite.
Amen! And Sherman, it matters not what this or that group says or believes. It's His Word that is to be believed.
I choose God over man every single time.
If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.Or you can get raw with these strings. Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.
Do it!
If not the Protestant Reformers, then who would you say was the first wise man to lead Christians out of the dark and into the light, after so man centuries, on the issue of choseness?
The lineage of Christ’s family and His Apostles and the retention of the Old Testament are bonds in the special relationship.
I love Vivaldi and Bach.shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiachBut sometimes a good fiddle
touches the soul. Kadosh L'Cha
Are Jews a race or ethnicity? Is a Chinese Jew just as Jewish as an Ethiopian Jew?
Is Judaism a religion? Is an atheistic Jew just as Jewish as a rabbi?
Is a heretical Jew that maliciously breaks the Ten Commandments just as Chosen as the most pious Jew?
“was like Dude! American military technology is better!!!”
Depends what you are selling.
(I was a pilot for a long time and turned salesman/tester for an Israeli defense firm.)
I have sold a lot of targeting equipment to the USA.
Marines love me because I have shown up with goodie bags for them to beta test. I got tracked down at a wedding for an emergency sale by a General I won’t name. Personally delivered it to Afganistan.
“Over millennia, everyone tries to kill us. We are still here.”
And then we eat.
They did a study and pretty much all Jewish people are related to the 3rd or 4th cousin level, regardless of Sephardi, Ashkenazi, or Mizarahim, if that is what you mean.
Our closest non-Jewish genetic relatives are the Samaritans (who never left), followed by the arabs who live in Judea/Samaria (also known as “palestinians”).
“Are Jews a race or ethnicity?”
Yes, as to ethnicity. No, as to race.
“Is a Chinese Jew just as Jewish as an Ethiopian Jew?
Yes.
“Is Judaism a religion?”
Yes.
“Is an atheistic Jew just as Jewish as a rabbi?”
Yes.
“Is a heretical Jew that maliciously breaks the Ten Commandments just as Chosen as the most pious Jew?”
Yes.
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Few like or love the Bible’s commentaries on many morals ,values, cultural, pre-destined views and historical judgments from a real Higher Power: the Creator-Savior-King of the Universe. But, as kids would say, or was it the mom in Babe,’that’s just the way things are.’ Christians are just grafted in and am I glad that we are. In the ME today, I support Israel and do not support the rest of the Islamofascist thugs. Yep, another biased belief and that’s just the way things are.
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