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To: sasportas
>> What they fail to realize is Old Testament Judaism and >> modern day Talmudic/Kabbalist Judaism are two very >> different things. Modern day Judaism is a syncretism of >> Torah and Pagan philosophy (Kabbalah). You have the nerve to talk here about paganism given the very pronounced pagan motives, beliefs and practices of the most forms of mainstream Christianity over the last 2000 years. Stuff like the theology trinity, the "son of God" , the widespread veneration of icons in the eastern Christianity, the openly idolatrous veneration of the statues of Mary and saints in the Catholic church, the VERY pagan origins of modern "Christmas" and "Easter - all of these things ANTI-Torah both in essence and in practice - I could go on and on. What I find again and again on these threads is the inability of the majority of non-Jews again and again to grasp the basic concepts of monotheism, the belif in One, True God. Some crucial piece of the puzzle is missing. Maybe a Jewish neshamah. If anything, it makes me revisit my own Jewishness and reevaluate some things I may have been taking for granted. Maybe we are that much different. Like oil and water.
131 posted on 05/17/2011 9:46:16 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: JadeEmperor

I am not Roman Catholic. I am opposed to forms of paganism in Christianity. For instance, I do not observe Christmas or Easter...

These forms of syncretism are widely known, the enemies of Christianity, such as yourself, never fail to remind us. It gets publicized all the time. I make no claim that Christianity is free from paganism.

Not so though about Judaism. Such things as I have pointed out are NOT widely known. It is Judaism that claims to be free from paganism, and uses their supposed pagan-free status as a weapon against Christianity, while their form of paganism is much worse. I asked a Karaite Jew one time his opinion of the Kabbalah, he minced no words, he said it was idolatry, witchcraft, and sorcery. The same sort of thing that caused Jerusalem to be destroyed in 600 BC, he said.

While both Judaism and Christianity has these things that are wrong and sinful, and no excuse should be made for them, unbelief of Jesus Messiah is the greater sin.


133 posted on 05/17/2011 10:37:33 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: JadeEmperor

Well said! Christianity is the original mormonism when you think of it. They have dragged all sorts of pagan concepts out and tried to shoe-horn them into Judaism as “the new covenant”.


138 posted on 05/18/2011 9:59:38 AM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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