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A Former Opponent of the Death Penalty Now Favors Hanging - by the Penis
New Haven Advocate ^ | May 17, 2011 | Win Vitkowsky

Posted on 05/18/2011 9:17:04 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

It looks like the death penalty will remain an option in the Cheshire home invasion trial, as key lawmakers who supported abolition last year say they will cross over to the other side. Dr. William Hawke-Petit, the sole survivor of a highly publicized 2007 home invasion in which his wife and daughters were followed home, raped and murdered, has led a lobbying effort against abolishing the death penalty in Connecticut.

State Sen. Edith Prague, who voted in favor of abolition last year, said she will switch sides this year. She made a strong statement to watchdog website CT News Junkie. “They should bypass the trial and take that second animal [Komisarjevsky] and hang him by his penis from a tree out in the middle of Main Street,” Prague said.

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KEYWORDS: capitalpunishment; connecticut; deathpenalty; komisarjevsky; prague
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1 posted on 05/18/2011 9:17:09 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: martin_fierro

ping


2 posted on 05/18/2011 9:19:07 AM PDT by GQuagmire ('Don't Piss The Lady Off')
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To: ConservativeStatement

If she was talking about Zero I am all for it!


3 posted on 05/18/2011 9:19:39 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Mugged Liberal Syndrome?


4 posted on 05/18/2011 9:20:10 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: ConservativeStatement; tx_eggman
by his penis

Ancient idea. That would actually be the "drawn" part of "drawn and quartered".
5 posted on 05/18/2011 9:20:10 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Sadly, it was only when her family was affected that she was moved to change her position. This is the height of self-interest, just like most of the American people.


6 posted on 05/18/2011 9:21:18 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: ConservativeStatement

She looks to be about 65... a slow learner, but at least she finally learned. What’s the saying, “There’s no conservative like a liberal who has been mugged”?

The US has been such a rich and secure country that common sense hasn’t been necessary for the survival of the liberal classes and their families. They’ve had the luxury of a fantasy world. I fear that this luxury will evaporate in the coming decades.


7 posted on 05/18/2011 9:21:41 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: ConservativeStatement

“A Former Opponent of the Death Penalty Now Favors Hanging - by the Penis”

I have often suggested this as a punishment for some sex offenders. It is far more humane than what my father has suggested.


8 posted on 05/18/2011 9:22:36 AM PDT by Grunthor (RIDE THE CAIN TRAIN!)
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To: SpinnerWebb
Actually, not. The "drawn" part is when the executioner opened the body cavity and removed the entrails, to be burned before the condemned. The removal of the private parts occurred as soon as the body was cut down from the gallows.

They just don't do "cruel and unusual" like they used to.

9 posted on 05/18/2011 9:23:06 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: ConservativeStatement

I believe it was William F. Buckley (correct me if I’m wrong) who once famously said, “A Conservative is a Liberal who’s been mugged.”


10 posted on 05/18/2011 9:23:42 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (e)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I prefer the manner of revenge exacted on the murderous perp by Gerard Butler in “Law-Abiding Citizen”


11 posted on 05/18/2011 9:24:24 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: Theodore R.

It’s a true but sad statement, though man maybe God’s greatest of creations there are some who are so vile that they aren’t worth a dead dog.


12 posted on 05/18/2011 9:25:45 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Theodore R.

Sadly, it was only when her family was affected that she was moved to change her position. This is the height of self-interest, just like most of the American Liberal people.

Fixed it!

13 posted on 05/18/2011 9:26:12 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: ConservativeStatement
hang him by his penis from a tree out in the middle of Main Street,” Prague said.

While painful, this would not deter this animal, or others from committing a crime like this again in the future. Kill the animal, face the evil, confront the predator - and kill them.

Only when he is dead; can we rest assured that THIS animal will never hurt another person again. Another animal might arise from the slime and do something like this again - and once again society will have to use their backbone, face evil; and destroy it.

14 posted on 05/18/2011 9:29:36 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Agreed.


15 posted on 05/18/2011 9:31:23 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: GQuagmire
Capital Punishment has two purposes, a)punishment for the action and b)protection of society from the perpetrator.
16 posted on 05/18/2011 9:32:48 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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To: AnAmericanMother

My understanding is that they had the victim tied limb to limb by rope to 4 horses. A rope was secured tightly around the privates of the victim, and attached to a fifth horse, who walked forward to draw the entrails from the victim, who then got to watch them burn, if he survived.

THEN, the other four horses walk forward, ripping the body into quarter sections.


17 posted on 05/18/2011 9:38:03 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: Grunthor

I like a more creative method

Clamp their ‘junk’ in a vice, hand them a knife, and set the building on fire


18 posted on 05/18/2011 9:38:45 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Rumplemeyer

Execution is only a deterrent when it is done while the crime is fresh in the minds of those effected by it.

Let a murderer sit in prison for 20 years before execution and people forget why he was put there. California has 650 people on death row, 98% of them will die a a natural death. How is that a deterrent?

A subject given the death penalty should get a new trial 6 months after the first one. New lawyers, a new judge, a new Jury, if found guilty and sentenced to death a second time he /Her should be executed within 24 hrs.


19 posted on 05/18/2011 9:41:09 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: ConservativeStatement

I can’t imagine the pain, suffering and anguish this poor man had to endure. What a horrific loss. Leave it to we humans to figure creative ways to do despicable things to each other. May the great I AM comfort him and his surviving family.

This is another case where I wonder, “how does God hold his wrath so long,” followed by “I’m glad He is infinitely more compassionate than I am.”


20 posted on 05/18/2011 9:44:19 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Impossible...physics my friend, physics.


21 posted on 05/18/2011 9:45:25 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Theodore R.

Liberals are indeed “do as I say, not as I do” hypocrites, but I don’t see that the State Senator knew the people involved?

This is such a horrifying crime. Two thugs who are pure evil targeting a hard-working, law-abiding family and following them home to a seemingly safe neighborhood. People can’t comfort themselves by saying, “That could not happen to me.”


22 posted on 05/18/2011 9:45:34 AM PDT by Belle22
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To: bigfootbob
It's a good thing I checked replies to the original post, as I was about to make the same exact post as you.

Liberals exist in their own isolated bubbles from which they wish to impose rules for everybody else. Occasionally, reality pokes its ugly nose past seal of their inner sanctum, and the intellectually honest ones at least do take notice.

23 posted on 05/18/2011 9:45:58 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ConservativeStatement
I don't think the death penalty is an effective general deterrent, but it slashes recidivism rates like nothing else.
24 posted on 05/18/2011 9:46:16 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: SpinnerWebb

I used to have a photo from Iran/Iraq war showing this. they used four vehicles.


25 posted on 05/18/2011 9:47:43 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: ConservativeStatement

teachers who molest students should be hung by the breasts.


26 posted on 05/18/2011 9:48:43 AM PDT by bikerman (Where Has My America Gone?)
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To: ConservativeStatement
“They should bypass the trial and take that second animal [Komisarjevsky] and hang him by his penis from a tree out in the middle of Main Street,” Prague said.

This is the worst kind of liberal emotionalism. Last year, she opposes the death penalty. This year, she supports execution without a trial.

I would suggest that there is a reasonable middle ground.

27 posted on 05/18/2011 9:49:17 AM PDT by Pete (29thday.org Exponential problems require exponential solutions)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Ouch! That has got to hurt.


28 posted on 05/18/2011 9:51:57 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Rumplemeyer
"Capital Punishment has two purposes, a)punishment for the action and b)protection of society from the perpetrator."

Agree completely. Any argument that delves into 'the deterrent effect' should treat it as nothing more than a happy coincidence when and where it's established. My thoughts on capital punishment generally run along two streams...first, capital punishment is n fact, life affirming. If the penalties we exact as a society are to reflect our collective view of the severity of the infraction, the failure to exact the most severe penalty possible in effect devalues the life of the victim(s).

Second, I think capital punishment ought to be on the table for any crime in which the victim would have been justified in using lethal force to resist the crime. In such cases, it is the criminal who has openly placed the value of their own life below those of the fruits of the crime; that they did not get killed during the commission of the crime is merely a sad accident for the victim.

29 posted on 05/18/2011 9:55:10 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Grunthor

If it were up to me they would have to find some other slow death way to hang him, because he would have already been force-fed his penis and anus.


30 posted on 05/18/2011 9:58:58 AM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL! I knew I stole that idea from someone.

Seriously though, you are absolutely correct, especially your first sentence in the second paragraph.


31 posted on 05/18/2011 10:01:40 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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32 posted on 05/18/2011 10:02:28 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Grunthor
"...what my father has suggested.:

Something to do with abandoned house, floor, nail, rusty razor blade, and fire...?

33 posted on 05/18/2011 10:05:17 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Mr. K

give ‘em to jigsaw!! he comes up with some great traps.


34 posted on 05/18/2011 10:13:56 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Sometimes the popular history books skip over the nitty gritty details. There are other ways to, uhm, 'access' the intestines when they 'drew and quartered.' Look up how a hunter dresses and guts a deer to keep the meat from being spoiled by the contents of the gut. Bass Pro sells a special gadget to make it easier.

Now, transfer that to some "traitor" to the crown, and don't shoot the guy, first.

To call it cruel and unusual doesn't BEGIN to describe it.

Sometimes there are things you wish you could unlearn.

35 posted on 05/18/2011 10:27:09 AM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Isn’t she one of those gun-grabbing Democrats that infest this state’s government?

What a violent statement from her. Maybe she needs to be held for psychiatric evaluation. For her safety and the safety of the community, of course...


36 posted on 05/18/2011 10:37:38 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: kbennkc
I would favor the Death Penalty were it not for the ability of the Government to screw things up. The DP is where you can't say "Oops! Wrong guy." and kick the guy out the door after 10 years in stir.

I've always thought we could farm out our death row inmates to a Bolivian or Thai or Nigerian prison, say at $30,000 per annum, and keep them alive on the chance that the eye witness will have a change of heart. It's a plus for the Bolivians, it's no fun for the prisoner, and it is reversible in case some mouth breathing DA committed a pooch screw 'cause he/she wanted to be governor.

It might actually be a deterrent if some gang banger from Chicago thinks he could spend life in some Thai lockup, a long way from his homies.

37 posted on 05/18/2011 10:46:57 AM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: jonascord
I would favor the Death Penalty were it not for the ability of the Government to screw things up.

The clarity and elegence of Pascal, Will Rogers, and Ronald Wilson Reagan.

38 posted on 05/18/2011 11:03:34 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: jonascord
I would favor the Death Penalty were it not for the ability of the Government to screw things up.

The clarity and elegance of Pascal, Will Rogers, and Ronald Wilson Reagan.

39 posted on 05/18/2011 11:04:12 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Would not mind if all female and male rapists and sex predators were hung from trees by their genitals.

No, not the high school kids where one’s a year older than the other. The real, honest to goodness, sex criminals.


40 posted on 05/18/2011 11:14:10 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Good for her! Now remove her voting privileges for being stupid for so long.


41 posted on 05/18/2011 11:15:33 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

So, would the penis hold the entire body weight or break off with the guy still alive?

Just curious.


42 posted on 05/18/2011 11:17:13 AM PDT by unique
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To: Pearls Before Swine

actually Prague’s in her 80’s. been in the senate forever. she’s actually pretty left of left, and this represents a hueg change in he rposition. i’ve met her several times, and she’s a ball of energy. i disagree with her politically, but consider her a good person.


43 posted on 05/18/2011 11:18:08 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: ConservativeStatement

In San Francisco, this is called foreplay.


44 posted on 05/18/2011 11:27:28 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: jonascord
Don't need to look it up - I've field dressed my share of deer.

The secret is a short clasp knife and dental floss. Seriously.

45 posted on 05/18/2011 11:30:04 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: SpinnerWebb
Nope, that's what the guys in Germany and Eastern Europe did (they were a lot more creative and, believe it or not, crueller than the English). "Drawing" may mean to pull apart, but not in this case.

"Hanging, drawing, and quartering" was the traditional English punishment for high treason (as opposed to low or petit treason). William Wallace, a bunch of Catholic priests, and Guy Fawkes were hanged, drawn and quartered (although Fawkes escaped the worst of it by leaping from the ladder after the rope was placed, breaking his neck and dying instantly). The law remained on the books well into the 19th century, but was last applied to the Cato Street Conspirators - during the reign of George IV.

46 posted on 05/18/2011 11:41:34 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Pearls Before Swine

More like in the next couple of years.


47 posted on 05/18/2011 11:56:52 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Grunthor

If someone deserves to be hung by the penis, then I say execute them, and deservedly so.

This mutilation of men doesn’t sit well with me, because it plays into the mindset of the exhibited radical feminist mantra.

When’s the last time you heard of someone suggesting a woman’s tits be cut off? When’s the last time you heard of someone suggesting a woman’s genital area be mutilated?

Whenever you hear of a woman cutting off a man’s private parts, there’s a group of people out there who think it’s rather funny. Aw, he must have deserved it.

Well, I don’t think anyone deserves that, men or women. If a person has done something that merits this type of punishment, then they merit being executed and I’m all for that.

Spare the future victims, period! Don’t play into the feminist ant-male agenda, even if a case could be made in certain instances.

Just fry the asshole, and the quicker the better, be they male or female.


48 posted on 05/18/2011 12:30:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Tell me you haven't asked yourself what mistake Obama made, that wound up causing Laden's death?)
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To: jonascord
I would favor the Death Penalty were it not for the ability of the Government to screw things up.

Until recently, I was a supporter of the DP. After realizing how much corruption we have in our justice system, I have come to the point where I no longer trust the government with the power to take a life.

And why should the government be able to decide that one life has more value than another? If a criminal kills a Federal employee, they qualify for the DP. Kill a cop...ditto.

So we have the possibility of a situation where Criminal "A" is speeding away from robbing the local 7-11, T-bones the mailman's little truck, and the mailman dies as a result. Meanwhile, criminal "B" has invaded your (or my) home, raped, tortured, and killed the wife.

Guess which one is almost guaranteed to face the DP in court? I don't like the idea of the government (Federal OR State) deciding that government lives are more valuable than the lives of the "little people".

49 posted on 05/18/2011 12:46:41 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Having dressed out a couple of deer, in my time, yes, I know. And, there is NO RUSH! I always had a length of string through a buttonhole, for the purpose.

You would be surprised, however, at how many people have never seen the process, let alone had to do it, miles from anywhere, with cold, 'wet', hands and stiff from motionless hours in a tree stand. (My father would whisper, "Did you come to hunt or dance?" if I shifted a little.)

It's wicked cold, during deer season, and a 12ga. slug kicks hard when you're 12. Illinois didn't permit rifles for deer hunting. I don't know if they ever changed.

It's a comment on something that I haven't been hunting since I came back from Overseas, going on forty years, now...

50 posted on 05/18/2011 12:48:18 PM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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