Posted on 05/22/2011 10:36:49 AM PDT by GonzoII
I like what I see,The leftie bats were going off the edge on C-Span this morning commenting on Mr Cain.
Many questions about Cain need answering before I support him.
Cain just keeps saying things that make sense.
I am not convinced the republicans are going to put forth a candidate that has the ability to beat BO...rather are they willing to let BO take the heat for a fall’en nation and come in thereafter? I do believe both parties are looking at who is going to take the blame when the bottom does fall out. If it looks to the Democrats to have gone too far to “rescue” will they plan themselves for Obama’s demise? An illness or whatever to prevent his running that will be palatable to his base.?...and this at the last minute.
I think Cain is a new world order socialist in drag. New information about his supprt of the bailouts and his belief that is a good theing that the government own banks so it can make a profit.
That is fasism.
That is fascism, and fascism is socialism
Did Ron Paul come up with that one?
First of all, its spelled Fascism.
It’s interesting how anyone who acknowledges that capital flows around the world, and who understands that you can’t ignore the rest of the world when considering economic questions and business, is branded a “new world order socialist” by those who long to return to isolationism, which by the way was always anti-American, and always anti-intellectual anti-objective thought.
Second of all, if you think Herman Cain is a fascist, then you are obviously either a few beers short of a six-pack, or a liberal democrat troll plant.
If something is true the source doesn’t matter, but nice try, a C for effort.
I’m not a Paul suporter, still open to every choice, let’s vet them all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol45PnAIFRU
Video description: I politely attempted to question Herman Cain on his support of the TARP Bailout and tried to obtain his opinion on the fact that billions of American Tax Payer Dollars went to Foreign Banks... As a Tea Party member who is deciding on who I should support for the Republican Primary I was shocked to hear him say Thats too long of a question to answer Mr. Cain seems very protective of the Federal Reserve and their secretive financial transactions.. He has lost my vote...
Herman Cain in his own words:
Wake up people! Owning a part of the major banks in America is not a bad thing. We could make a profit while solving a problem. But the mainstream media and the free market purists want you to believe that this is the end of capitalism as we know it. -Herman Cain, re: TARP, 2008
Seems Cain loves the bailouts http://washingtonindependent.com/68578/yes-palin-backed-the-bailouts
Herman Cain is a pro-Fed, pro-bailout.
Dont be caught voting for an originally-bailout-supporting, flip-flopping faker.
“As a Tea Party member who is deciding on who I should support for the Republican Primary I was shocked to hear him say ‘Thats too long of a question to answer’ “
Wow I have to admit I’ve heard more shocking things in my life than “That’s too long of a question to answer.”
When this person encounters the abbreviation “etc.” in books and periodicals are they sent into cardiac arrest?
How do they survive the inevitable “to be continued” at the of of some episodes of popular television series?
I would submit the cited Tea-Party supporter should grow a thicker skin to remain in the Tea-Party than their current aversion to incidental discontinuities seems to indicate is the case presently.
Sorry for the typo, and I actuall misuused the term fascism......
So you favor the government owning GM, OIG, and Ford, Burger King, McDonals, the NY Yankees. Because if they did they could use the profits to help us out of this mess. Becasue if what Cain said is true then he sure does. My question is where do you draw the line as to which business to own and which ones get to operate as a free company?
Look at all of the loot the communists/socialists could get from the oil companies if only we took the over. Well actually the government owning the company’s isn’t really fascism, which I not only misspelled but misused, it’s communism when th egovernment owns a business or part of the business, so my bad for thinking he is a fascist, he’s more of a scoislist.
See my tag line, it’s there to help stupid people understand what we are fighting, so there’s your sign.
Frankly, I agree that the GOP will not pick a winner deliberately, as they did in ‘98. I do not trust the RNC and I haven’t since ‘92. My hopes are with the Tea Party, but, as I’ve said before, there is something about Cain that doesn’t feel right to me. I do feel much better about one who has not yet announced, and that is Michelle Backman. It’s going to take a pile of dough, and since the RNC will not back a winner, it will be up to the electorate to fund her sufficiently to carry on a viable campaign. However, what she says should stimulate that support.
Then all we have to stand against is vote fraud.
You make some good points:
“So you favor the government owning GM, OIG, and Ford, Burger King, McDonals, the NY Yankees.”
No I don’t favor that.
“Because if they did they could use the profits to help us out of this mess. Becasue if what Cain said is true then he sure does. My question is where do you draw the line as to which business to own and which ones get to operate as a free company?”
We should draw the line at no tolerance for the government owning businesses, and then after that you figure out what parts of the government can be eliminated and/or de-governmentalized.
“Look at all of the loot the communists/socialists could get from the oil companies if only we took the over. Well actually the government owning the companys isnt really fascism, which I not only misspelled but misused, its communism when th egovernment owns a business or part of the business, so my bad for thinking he is a fascist, hes more of a scoislist.”
I actually don’t think he’s a fascist or a communist. I think there are a lot of people that supported those moves in 2008 that wouldn’t support them now, and would like to disavow supporting them then. This may include Cain.
On another branch of this line of reasoning however, the media likes to skip the fact that Fascism essentially grew out of socialism in Germany. Fascism did not grow out of free-market classical liberalism (by which I mean modern Republican free-market financial conservatism.) It is often skipped over in the media’s rush to brand all free-market purists as Nazis, that fascism requires a socialistic surrender of the self at its beginning. So Nazism and Stalinism grow out of the same tree of socialist collectivism. With Nazism the perfection of the philosophy is self-sacrifice to the state and to the race, or the mythical idealized race, and with Stalinism the perfection of the philosophy is self-sacrifice to the state and to the “people” as an mythical idealized entity. Notice that both philosophies share the brotherhood of the concept of grinding the individual to unrecognizable fodder in the engine of collectivism and self sacrifice.
So the current dialectic between Nazism on the one extreme and Stalinism on the other extreme is a false dialectic set up by the majority of media outlets, meant to obscure the more important contrast, the real contrast between collectivism and individual liberty.
You know, the ones with the highest IQ are often the ones with the lowest common sense
I just am not happy with how things are playing out thus far. Though there are some good speaker candidates I cannot see most as being able to turn things in our country around. It is not going to be enough to be popular or simply like a candidate who knows how to stroke our backs and make us feel better. Our country is in serious trouble and what is ahead is not going to be a cake walk by any means. Who has the stuff that will be needed?
Well, that is an interesting theory, but who is in power when it does collapse will have more control over which direction country goes at that time, might not even have elections
Often that’s true, but not always.
Interesting statement but not backed up by reasoning on your part to any extent.
What exactly do you disagree with?
I disagree.
Regulation is to taxation as 10:1 in the job exodus.
Regulation and taxation are two heads of the same monster.
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