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Farmers tie labor shortage to state's new immigration law, ask for help (Georgia)
Atlanta Constitution ^ | 5-26-2011 | Jeremy Redmon

Posted on 05/26/2011 11:00:56 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

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To: ri4dc
"Offer minimum wage and they will probably have hundreds of applicants daily."

Perhaps you didn't catch the sentence in the article that stated the farmers are offering, on average, $12.50 per hour. More than minimum wage, no?

We have a farm and I can attest to the fact that you can't get most locals to work, even offering several dollars more than minimum wage. I will pay hard workers $10-12 an hour, provide transportation if needed, and feed them lunch. There are few takers. Why would they work in the heat and humidity when taxpayers will pay them to sit on the porch at home?

41 posted on 05/27/2011 9:12:50 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Snuph

Thanks for the detail on wages there. There is not a labor shortage. Just a shotage of people willing to work for third world wages in GA


42 posted on 05/27/2011 9:18:17 PM PDT by BJungNan (Spend yesterday's money good, today's money ok. Never spend tomorrow's money)
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To: DH
"And just how does Georgia avoid the FEDERAL minimum wage act?"

There are certain exemptions from the federal wage laws, such as companies doing less than $500k annually, so long as their business does not cross state lines.

43 posted on 05/27/2011 9:18:23 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: wiggen
"Its hot and humid in Ga so pick real early in the morning and again when the sun starts to go down. Whats the big deal?"

It's hot and humid in the whole of the South, nobody is going to make a living farming 4 hours a day, which is about all that it MIGHT be comfortable.

44 posted on 05/27/2011 9:22:45 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Just remember, the wages the chinese worker gets is all take home pay, about $490 a month and have more money saved than most Americans. Daily living expenses do not include many that are considered normal in the US like insurance. Payroll tax is about 64% and provides a housing allowance and other benefits to cover monthly living. Still, the wages are low but it is only the labor intensive manufacturing that sees that advantage. The reality is that businesses do not locate in China to save labor costs. Many were chased out of the US over a hostile business climate. One line item of non salary related G&A expence in the U.S covers a lot of G&A expenses at a factory in China. Anyone reading this have experince complying with government regulatory compliance paperwork?


45 posted on 05/27/2011 9:39:38 PM PDT by BJungNan (Spend yesterday's money good, today's money ok. Never spend tomorrow's money)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

As a business owner I keep myself highly informed and enlightened of the Federal labor laws and I have not found any reference to your statement in all of the rules and regulations I have read.

Please provide the federal CFR reference for your statement. If you can find it and cite it, my hat’s off to you. If not, your statement could possibly lead to many small employers reading your post to unknowingly violate Federal minimum wage requirements.

In ALL CASES Federal employment laws supersede state laws.


46 posted on 05/28/2011 5:21:19 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH
I can not reference the federal CFR that you've requested, and my source for the statement about exemptions is certainly not authoritative.

The particular exemption that I posted (less than 500k, no business across state lines) came from Wiki. It is my hope that nobody is relying on forum posts to guide their hiring and employment practices.

Thank you for pointing out my possible error. There are certainly exemptions to federal minimum wage, but at this time I can't assert that my original post is one of them.

47 posted on 05/28/2011 7:45:57 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Snuph
That's for waitresses that work for tips. Federal minimum wage for everybody else that works legally . The farmers hire a “farm-boss” (read: legal team boss) who then hires a couple dozen illegals so the farmer has plausible deniability as to status of their workers because they are subcontracted out.
48 posted on 06/04/2011 9:42:26 AM PDT by Rocketwolf68 (Bring back the crusades)
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