1. Serious investigation with enough evidence for judge to give out warrant to search 4 homes of suspected drug dealers and perps robbing other drug gangs off at gunpoint with double homicide.
So serious that there were no arrests made stemming from the raids? No drugs found at Guerena's house? Nothing but a Border Patrol hat you can buy at any truck stop and a few legal weapons that half of FR probably has in their gun safes?
2. SWAT teams attempts to serve warrant. A perp portrayed as dangerous and possibly a murderer
You mean 'the alleged', right? Do you know the difference? Or do you simply think that since the cops shot him, he's de facto a criminal?
points his AR 15 and yells, “I got something for ya”.
Was that before or after he opened fire on the police? Oh, wait, did that initial story turn out to be a lie? Well, this one will be harder to disprove, so long as the boys keep their story straight.
Result: Dead perp...He’d be dead in 99/100 of cases where this scenario played out.
Uh huh. You must play a lot of video games or be a big Charles Bronson fan.
I don't know if this guy is innocent or guilty, but the larger issue here is the clumsy ass militarization of the police.
For one, we did better at this stuff in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the paramilitary door kicking thing was new to us at first. If I get my door kicked in when Obama decides that being a FReeper is domestic terrorism, I'd at least hope that I get gunned down with something closer to SEAL Team VI performance that this Tucson clown car circus.
I mean, rather than clear the building and apply medical attention to the target, they let the guy bleed out while waiting an hour for the robot to poke his dead body to make sure he's dead-dead? Really? My commander (prior to screaming at me to do my damn job) would have laughed himself to tears if I had asked for that in Tikrit.
For two, this is America, not the Soviet Union. Or Iraq, for that matter. If this is what we want our country to be, then let's just toss the Constitution out and be done with it. Paying lip service to freedom and God given rights while cheering on the SWAT for acting like the Internal Security Bureau of some third world banana republic is intellectually dishonest.
“You mean ‘the alleged’, right? Do you know the difference? Or do you simply think that since the cops shot him, he’s de facto a criminal?”
Sorry, we are not in court, so I’m not bound to use technically precise terms. Also, my statement was about “enough evidence for a judge to ok a warrant...”
“Was that before or after he opened fire on the police?”
It is not uncommon for people to interpret incorrectly when massive gunshots are heard in the fog of a dangerous situation. Do you honestly think that the police officers are out there to do harm and lie?
“I mean, rather than clear the building and apply medical attention to the target, they let the guy bleed out while waiting an hour for the robot to poke his dead body to make sure he’s dead”
Different set of of risk averseness in police versus military. Also, the officers state his body fell through a doorway and he was mostly obscured from their vision.
“My commander (prior to screaming at me to do my damn job) would have laughed himself to tears if I had asked for that in Tikrit.”
Seriously. Thanks for your service. I wonder how many of our strikes in Iraq and Afghan that are labeled as “civillians” are truly civies or just Talis and AQ in garb, hiding by some civies, knowing the PR effect.?
“Paying lip service to freedom and God given rights while cheering on the SWAT for acting like the Internal Security Bureau of some third world banana republic is intellectually dishonest.”
An objective look at our civil rights versus “third worlders” and even Euros, will show our civil rights are still intact and the strongest in the world.
Comparing the US to the Soviets is just not knowing the Soviets.
Great posts.