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Appeals court lifts ban on Texas graduation prayer
statesman.com ^

Posted on 06/03/2011 8:32:30 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin

SAN ANTONIO — Public prayer will be allowed at a Texas high school graduation after a federal appeals court on Friday reversed a ban won by an agnostic family that claimed ceremony traditions such as invocations were unconstitutional.

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals granted an emergency appeal filed by the Medina Valley Independent School District. Its San Antonio-area high school was ordered by a federal judge earlier this week to forbid students from asking audience members to join in prayer or bow their heads during Saturday's graduation.

The lawsuit was filed on behalf of Christa and Danny Schultz, who said watching their son receive a diploma this weekend would amount to forced religious participation. The Castroville parents argued that traditions such as invocation and benediction excluded their beliefs.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry and various conservative groups, which had rallied to the defense of the school, hailed Friday's ruling by the three-judge panel.

"It should not be illegal for students to say a prayer at a graduation ceremony. Now, the federal court of appeals agrees," said Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, who filed a brief in support of the school.

The Schultzes lawsuit was backed by the Washington-based Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Ayesha Khan, an attorney for the organization, said the group was "deeply" disappointed but would continue with the lawsuit to try to rid the school of promoting religion in its ceremonies.

"Students should be able to attend their graduation ceremonies without being pressured to participate in worship," Khan said. "All children should feel welcome at this important event in their lives regardless of their opinions about religion."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: teaparty
At least the good guys win one over those Godless liberals.
1 posted on 06/03/2011 8:32:35 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin
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To: Ira_Louvin

Gee, giving back our rights ... how gracious of them.


2 posted on 06/03/2011 8:36:52 PM PDT by doc1019 (Palin/West, unbeatable.)
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To: Ira_Louvin
"At least the good guys win one over those Godless liberals."

Ah, Man . . . Bummer.

3 posted on 06/03/2011 8:37:28 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Ira_Louvin
"Students should be able to attend their graduation ceremonies without being pressured to participate in worship," Khan said. "All children should feel welcome at this important event in their lives regardless of their opinions about religion."

Students should be able to attend their graduation ceromonies with the freedom of religion to speak about their faith.

4 posted on 06/03/2011 8:37:40 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Ira_Louvin

Even if this ruling is over-ruled, even if by the Supreme court, people should begin to openly defy the order. The speaker should launch into a prayer. The crowd should too.

And this needs to happen every place they say we can’t. They cannot arrest all of us. The day Christians decide to quit obeying this unjust oppression is when we win. The truth is that they count on us to obey rulings. But there are a LOT of us.


5 posted on 06/03/2011 8:38:34 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: doc1019

The judge was seeking to nullify the Constitutionally defined unalienable rights of the people. For this he should be removed, sooner rather than later, because he not only does not comprehend OUR Constitution, he is in violation of the law that Constitution established and he presumably swore an oath to!


6 posted on 06/03/2011 8:40:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: DesertRhino
They cannot arrest all of us.

True. Also, the judge is elected. He may have just written his pink slip.

7 posted on 06/03/2011 8:42:11 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Ira_Louvin

They live in quiet fear that one day,,, we will simply laugh and begin to do what we want. They won’t resort to force,, there are too many of us, and we are too well armed, and we are simply wanting to be left alone. We are harming nobody.

Everywhere people finally get enough, they win. The Berlin Wall, Moscow, Orange revolution in Ukraine, the Philippines,,,, One day, maybe we will dare them too. TEA is a very small warning to them.


8 posted on 06/03/2011 8:43:34 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino
Even if this ruling is over-ruled, even if by the Supreme court, people should begin to openly defy the order.

I had an even better idea, mystery prayer.

Just imagine, halfway through the ceremony, unannounced, someone emerges through the crowd with a paper bag over his head. Offers a prayer and perhaps even a short sermon, and then disappears back into the grandstand.

9 posted on 06/03/2011 8:46:01 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: DesertRhino
This administration is the template for that. Obama already does what he wants.
10 posted on 06/03/2011 8:52:37 PM PDT by JPG (Sarah Palin, driving the MSM crazy one day at a time.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

F U Khaaaaaaaan!!!!!

11 posted on 06/03/2011 8:52:47 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Ira_Louvin

The reversal of the 1st Amendment, from protecting freedom of religion from government oversight, into granting or restricting religious expression through government process, is the clearest possible example that a different kind of law is being imposed.

Instead of screaming about what the judges decide to grant or not, people should be examining the process by which the judges claim to be able to decide anything about the issue at all. If that was done, the Great Secret would be exposed.

But as few ever look at this underlying claim of administrative power... The Band Plays On.

Hidden through open exposure, in broad daylight, at high noon.

And since the advent of the Web, complete with multiple explanatory labels.

Still... crickets.

It’s amazing.


12 posted on 06/03/2011 9:10:45 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: Ira_Louvin
"Students should be able to attend their graduation ceremonies without being pressured to participate in worship," Khan said. "All children should feel welcome at this important event in their lives regardless of their opinions about religion."

As opposed to being forced by the state NOT ro express their religious feelings . /sarc

13 posted on 06/03/2011 9:29:10 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: DesertRhino

They usually do. I have read tons of stories of huge parts of the crowds breaking into the Our Father, for example.


14 posted on 06/03/2011 9:39:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Scones up!


15 posted on 06/03/2011 9:44:50 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: Ira_Louvin

There should be flash mobs at all graduations. If many can break out in song in malls or food courts, why not break out in prayer at graduation ceremonies?


16 posted on 06/03/2011 10:04:41 PM PDT by peggybac (In the contemporary world, they pulled a Pearl Harbor. We need to pull a Hiroshima.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

Thank GOD!

I mean, you know, it is ONE prayer. Listening to, what? ONE MINUTE of something you don’t like/disagree with/despise, is going to cause you harm?

If that is the case you are a weak little flower and should probably never leave your house again.

Definitely don’t ever come to NYC!


17 posted on 06/04/2011 3:58:47 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: DesertRhino

“And this needs to happen every place they say we can’t.”

Yes, agreed.

Maybe people can agree on some prayer that would be said in such “protest” circumstances. Something short and non-sectarian.

Maybe it could even be the “serenity prayer”

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

Or something like that. About that length, easy to memorize, and suitable for the occasion.

May Providence preserve us from these stinking commie libs.

That’s probably too negative, but you get the idea!


18 posted on 06/04/2011 4:06:15 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Ira_Louvin

YEAH!!!!!!! Sanity returns!!!


19 posted on 06/04/2011 5:51:26 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ira_Louvin; All

The idiot federal judge that made that reprehensible ruling really...really...needs to be removed from his post. There needs to be some legal mechanism where the people can boot such a fool. I wished the Texas governor would have had the fool arrested and escorted off Texas territory.


20 posted on 06/04/2011 8:00:38 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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