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'I'm a Marxist:' Dalai Lama
AFP ^ | May 20, 2010 | AFP

Posted on 06/10/2011 8:07:27 AM PDT by DaveTesla

Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama said Thursday that he is a Marxist, yet credits capitalism for bringing new freedoms to the communist country that exiled him -- China.

"Still I am a Marxist," the exiled Tibetan Buddhist leader said in New York, where he arrived with an entourage of robed monks and a heavy security detail to give a series of paid public lectures.

Marxism has "moral ethics, whereas capitalism is only how to make profits," the Dalai Lama, 74, said.

However, he credited China's embrace of market economics for breaking communism's grip over the world's most populous country and forcing the ruling Communist Party to "represent all sorts of classes."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: dalailama; iamamarxist; marxism; paidpubliclectures; rulingass; rulingclass; rulingcrass; rulinggrass; wakeupsmellthedung
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To: DaveTesla

How has Marxism worked out in Tibet?


61 posted on 06/10/2011 8:48:35 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: hosepipe; LucyT; little jeremiah; azishot; Fantasywriter
'I'm a Marxist:' Dalai Lama

Now, a change of name and title: Daliar 0lama

62 posted on 06/10/2011 8:48:41 AM PDT by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: melancholy

I think both systems have their problems, but capitalism seems to be the better option for the most people, although in this age of globalization, I am beginning to wonder if it will remain that way.


63 posted on 06/10/2011 8:50:54 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: DaveTesla

I guess that the smart llamas are the ones who live in the Andes.

Anyway, the Dalai one is more Marxist than Marx. Marx regarded morality as just an ideological outgrowth of the economic system, and the change to communism was merely to be the triumph of one economic class over another.

So the Dalai Lama has made a great moral mistake, and thereby incurred much bad karma. He will now be obliged to be reborn again, and we will all presumably suffer more such idiocy from him in his future incarnations, with no sign that he is actually making progress toward nirvana.


64 posted on 06/10/2011 8:51:07 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: melancholy

I have been a Buddhist for over 15 years.. I am seriously going home tonight and burning my Tibetan Prayer Flags.. It just goes to show that any religion / way of life can have an a*****e for a leader..


65 posted on 06/10/2011 8:53:51 AM PDT by hippyhater
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To: DaveTesla
Marxism has "moral ethics

Hello?! Dalai?

66 posted on 06/10/2011 8:53:55 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: DaveTesla
At first blush, the Dalai Lama's comment is absurd. Nothing about the hate crazed Marx represented moral values. Nothing about his view of historic determinants accorded with truth--the foundation for all morals and ethics. On the other hand, Capitalism, by encouraging provident behavior, and building for a sound future, is completely in accordance with a moral system. That some Capitalists have become corrupt and overly materialistic, in a short-sighted way, is irrelevant. Is there any system that completely prevents the moral corruption of its component practitioners?

That said, the Lama may be hoping to be allowed to return to China, and sees this as his path. There is also the factor that the monastic life in a land as harsh as Tibet must seem to have a lot in common with the concept of the collective farm in Communist agriculture.

I will then cut him some slack, although that does not mean his statement is not absurd, as a moral proposition.

67 posted on 06/10/2011 8:54:00 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: DaveTesla

So then he is both suicidal AND stupid?


68 posted on 06/10/2011 8:54:43 AM PDT by WayneS ("I hope you know this will go down on your PERMANENT record...")
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To: DonaldC
“I think both systems have their problems, but capitalism seems to be the better option for the most people.”

Capitalism a pejorative invented by Marx for the free market.

Free markets = prosperity and freedom.

Marxism = oppression, starvation, slavery, theft and death.

69 posted on 06/10/2011 8:55:52 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Lazamataz

In short:

Capitalists SERVE their customers.

Marxists STARVE their customers.

“So we’ve got that going for us... which is NICE!”


70 posted on 06/10/2011 8:59:36 AM PDT by WayneS ("I hope you know this will go down on your PERMANENT record...")
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To: docbnj
“no sign that he is actually making progress toward nirvana.”

And so it goes.
When man tries to build heaven on earth he always succeeds in creating hell...

71 posted on 06/10/2011 9:01:00 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: jrg

Blaspheme away you apologizing, historical revisionist.


72 posted on 06/10/2011 9:02:48 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: NativeSon
...what/who forced him out?"

Wait! I KNOW this one!

It's on the tip of my tongue... the word starts with "M"... I know it has an "X" in it... and it ends in "ISTS"

AR!

I JUST can't think of it right now..

73 posted on 06/10/2011 9:03:28 AM PDT by WayneS ("I hope you know this will go down on your PERMANENT record...")
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To: wideawake

So you’re saying he’s the ‘Homer Simpson’ of world ‘religious leaders’?


74 posted on 06/10/2011 9:05:34 AM PDT by WayneS ("I hope you know this will go down on your PERMANENT record...")
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To: NativeSon

Or mayne a Maosochist?


75 posted on 06/10/2011 9:07:02 AM PDT by WayneS ("I hope you know this will go down on your PERMANENT record...")
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To: kbennkc
He was a absolute monarchist before he fled his country and left his subjects to the brutalities of the commies, like a scared little chicken.

The Dalai Lamas weren't exactly the practise what they preach types.....If you want check up on the history before the commies, or look at Penn and Tellers segment on them (note: Penn and Teller are atheists, but not pseudo pop atheists, they don't exactly hold back on Buddhism).

76 posted on 06/10/2011 9:08:31 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: DaveTesla

Dalai is a senile p.o.s.


77 posted on 06/10/2011 9:09:25 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: lurk
The elites look in the mirror and see their god.

So maybe him being a Marxist shouldn't have been such a surprise to me...

78 posted on 06/10/2011 9:10:53 AM PDT by WayneS ("I hope you know this will go down on your PERMANENT record...")
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To: NativeSon
Your more right then you know.

Before the commies (who were and are pretty brutal), the Dalai Lamas didn't exactly practice what they preached...

Such as practicing brutal slavery, with eye gouging....

79 posted on 06/10/2011 9:12:59 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: WayneS

This explains why our Minnesota legislature went koo koo for cocoa puffs when he visited here a few years ago.

They acted like a bunch of 7th grade girls meeting Justin Bieber.


80 posted on 06/10/2011 9:19:00 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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