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The actual neocons are mostly dead now. Irving Kristol, Sidney Hook, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Walt and Eugene Rostow (one of them famous for saying: Grab 'em by the short hairs and their hearts and minds will follow) and many others who left the Demonrat Party when it was seized by reds at McGovern's convention (never to escape red accommodationist control sharing large parts of the agenda of your spineless cowardly "realist" agenda for a New World Order and other globaloney) are gone. The rest are very old but a lot wiser than the trash irresistably drawn to Nixon and Bush I by their lust for selling the soviets the rope with which to hang the last real Americans. Profits, profits, always profits over the survival of the USA and human freedom.

Norman Podhoretz, Midge Decter, Gertrude Himmelfarb and several others survive but age takes its toll on stamina.

Actual conservatives, formerly the New Right of the 60's and 70's, carry on in very large numbers. It is time for them to purge the tweedy professorial yak-yak artists who always find excuses to sell out America (SALT I, SALT II, SALT III, Panama Canal Treaty and innumerable other treasons). The difference between their actual conservative interventionist (on our own terms and without bowing and scraping to the UN and our other internationalist enemies) policy of doing whatever is in our perceived best interests, using whatever weapons will best accomplish the goal and absolutely shunning "nation-building" and other George Catlett Marshall-style payoffs to prop up socialism abroad and the "realists" is that interventionists want sharp quick and ruthless warfare funded by those who lose to our forces. I have not noticed any "neocon compassion." The aged actual neocons have been too busy saving American foreign policy from the quislings you admire and the surrenders you desire to be worried about "compassion." They also are not running Bechtel or Brown and Root and other construction corporations on the notion that if we really MUST fight then we can at least make the "realists" rich beyond the dreams of avarice and let those wogs do the fighting and dying without all that embarrassing desire for victory.

Neither peacecreepism nor international globaloney nor endless and fruitless diployak (with swell meals and accommodations befitting the swollen ids of our elitists).

Chickenhawk, huh???? Tell me the military experiences in combat of Condi Rice, Henry Kissinger, and the rest of your favored elitist quislings. Bush the Elder was shot down as a WWII flier at 17 years of age in the waters off Okinawa but that's about it. Colin Powell, perhaps, but not enough to merit such a liberal the promotions he received from GOP administrations. Take your elite and their diployak and insert where the sun shineth not.

Dubya, a major improvement over his hesitant father who made Iraq War II necessary by warfare interruptus in Iraq War I, still grew up in his father's house and that explains his tendency toward a "thousand points of light" a la dear old Dad that dragged Iraq II and Afghanistan out and refused to make Iraq pay for its liberation. Personally, I don't give a rat's patoot about whether Iraqis have "democracy." I care about whether they will be forced to heel.