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What Weiner Did Was Worse Than an Affair
Townhall.com ^ | June 14, 2011 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 06/14/2011 6:11:58 AM PDT by Kaslin

To their credit, most Democratic Party leaders have (finally) called for New York Rep. Anthony Weiner's resignation. But among liberal commentators and millions of other Americans, there is a great deal of flawed thinking about whether Weiner should resign.

The two most common arguments offered against his resigning have been that (1) what Weiner did was not illegal and (2) it was not even as bad as an extramarital affair because he never met, let alone had physical contact with, any of the women to whom he sent naked and semi-naked photos of himself.

The argument's entirely beside the point.

The point -- the whole point -- is the effect of what he did on the United States House of Representatives and on the country as a whole, especially young people.

There is a simple way to prove this. Let us imagine that some congressman had walked onto the House floor in his underwear. I think it is fair to assume that just about every Democrat and Republican in the country would demand his resignation. But why? That action is not illegal, and it certainly does not constitute a form of infidelity to his wife.

The reason people would demand his resignation is that such behavior disgraced the House of Representatives.

That is the issue here. When a member of Congress sends pictures of his penis to women around the country, he has demeaned Congress.

And he has done so far more than any member of Congress whose extramarital affair was publicly disclosed.

Most Americans understand that Congress, like every other institution, including their local church and synagogue, is composed of sinners. While we might wish that every member of Congress were as upstanding as we hope our pastor, priest or rabbi would be, most of us live in the real world and do not believe that marital infidelity automatically disqualifies one either from running for, or from holding, public office.

Furthermore, we understand that marital infidelity can be solely a matter between a husband and wife, and is not necessarily the country's business.

But what Weiner did is the country's business because of its effect on the reputation of the House and because of its effect on young Americans.

If I were a member of Congress, I would not be livid at every one of my colleagues who had had an affair. But I would be livid at Weiner. Every day he remains a congressman, he makes every one of his colleagues look bad: You can send photos such as Weiner did to women around America and still remain a member of this institution.

And at least as destructive as his impact on the House of Representatives is his impact on young America. The message to young Americans is the same: A 46-year-old member of Congress can send photos such as this congressman did to women around the country and keep his seat.

To appreciate how terrible this looks to a young person, ask your teenage son or daughter if he or she would be more humiliated if it became known that Dad had had an affair or that Dad sent photos of his penis to young women he never met.

I cannot think of a single event that symbolizes the decline of American society -- and especially of its liberal elite -- as much as Weiner's actions and his retention of his seat in Congress.

It is almost surreal. The Weiner photos pervade the Internet, and people like Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., do not demand the congressman's resignation, and liberal commentators wonder whether the congressman violated any laws.

Salon's Joan Walsh on MSNBC: "You can't accuse him of hypocrisy; he's not a family values moralizer. You can't accuse him yet of breaking the law."

Los Angeles Times editorial, June 8: "We'd prefer to leave it to New York voters to decide Weiner's political future."

And surely the Los Angeles Times knows that a majority of New York City voters say Weiner should stay in office.

New York Times editorial, June 6: "Mr. Weiner says he will not resign, and there is no evidence yet that he broke the law or abused the resources of his office. He said the computer and BlackBerry that he used were his own, not issued by the government."

If you ever need to show someone how low liberalism has sunk in our lifetime, just show him this New York Times editorial. A congressman sends photos of his genitalia to women he doesn't know, and The New York Times doesn't think he should resign unless the BlackBerry he used was issued by the government


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: dncmember; dncmemberatlarge; dncmemberatwork; dncrico; prager; protecteddncmember; prouddncmember; typicaldncmember; weiner; weinergate

1 posted on 06/14/2011 6:12:01 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
such behavior disgraced the House of Representatives.

That's like disgracing a whore house.

Except that whore houses serve a useful purpose, at least.

2 posted on 06/14/2011 6:14:21 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (No free Lazamataz for you! Come back, one year!)
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To: Kaslin
What Weiner Did Was Worse Than an Affair Adultery

Let's stop with the euphemisms and call it what it is.

3 posted on 06/14/2011 6:14:57 AM PDT by frogjerk (Liberalism: The ideology of envy.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Yup....and I bet those working girls do a better job of managing their ‘resources’ and $$$ than the clowns we send to DC!!


4 posted on 06/14/2011 6:16:50 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: frogjerk

Weiner essentially “flashed” women. He should have to register as a Sex Offender.


5 posted on 06/14/2011 6:19:34 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Kaslin
The point -- the whole point -- is the effect of what he did on the United States House of Representatives and on the country as a whole, especially young people. ... such behavior disgraced the House of Representatives

As opposed to to their legislative agenda which makes mockery of the constitution, rewards the indolent at the expense of the hard working, disarms the law abiding, forces motorists to burn ethanol at an enormous cost to the economy (and to the benefit of a few ethanol producers), gives "stimulus" money from our pockets to the politically faithful, etc. They could all walk in naked and have sex with farm animals on the floor and it wouldn't be a tithe of the disgrace that they already are.

6 posted on 06/14/2011 6:19:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Kaslin

Adultery..yes. His wife didn’t deserve this, and the nation didn’t deserve this. The fact that he was in his office when he did his dirty deeds reflects on all of us. He should leave but his arrogance won’t let him. I still don’t think we’ve heard it all. I’m still waiting for the other shoe to drop.


7 posted on 06/14/2011 6:21:13 AM PDT by mardi59
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To: massgopguy
Weiner essentially “flashed” women. He should have to register as a Sex Offender.

I agree. An IRS audit is in order as well because of all of the lies, him not registering his vehicle, not paying DNV fees, etc... I bet his taxes are a mess as well.

8 posted on 06/14/2011 6:23:45 AM PDT by frogjerk (Liberalism: The ideology of envy.)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for posting. I sent this to my Congressman and asked (again) that Weiner be expelled.


9 posted on 06/14/2011 6:25:42 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: massgopguy
Totally agree.

Weiner is a sex offender and should ware the label in public.

10 posted on 06/14/2011 6:27:21 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Kaslin

The destructive aspect of this is similar to the pernicious destructiveness of the Clinton/Lewinsky affair. In making excuses for Clinton, our society concluded that oral sex was not really sex at all. Now oral sex is commonplace amongst a ever younger portion of the population, and it is just accepted. Similarly, the phenomenon of “sexting” is getting very popular amongst teenagers, even as young as the Eighth Grade. If we excuse Anthony Weiner’s behavior, we will wind up condoning this behavior amongst schoolchildren.


11 posted on 06/14/2011 6:29:01 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you can read this / (To paraphrase on old line) / Thank a TAXPAYER!.)
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To: Kaslin

Dis - Graced

I have never seen a clip of Weiner, DOING HIS JOB, where he was acting with grace.


12 posted on 06/14/2011 6:31:11 AM PDT by DManA
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To: mardi59

From what I read his “wife” is unfaithful to him. She is married to her job.


13 posted on 06/14/2011 6:32:30 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Kaslin
And you didn't even mention how poorly he lies.

I expect a congressman to be good enough at it so that his lies last more than a few days or hours. But THIS guy lied about his actions, was caught in his lies, and admitted to his lies all in the space of little more than a week.

He is a disgrace to the proud prevaricating practices of his party and his office. I mean, if he is not capable of generating lies that can 'stand' for more than a week then he is truly not fit to be in congress.

Look at Charlie Rangel, for instance. He got away with his lies about tax evasion and improper benefits for YEARS. And even after he was caught, investigated and slapped on the wrist by a congressional ethics committee he STILL can't think of anything he did wrong. He still stands behind his lies. Now THERE is a man who knows how to be a congressman!

The democrats have good reason to be ashamed of this Weiner...

14 posted on 06/14/2011 6:32:39 AM PDT by WayneS ("I hope you know this will go down on your PERMANENT record...")
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To: Kaslin

People expect a shred of dignity from the legislative body that facilitates the murder of unborn children? I’d say that horse has been out of the barn for a while.

Weiner is just symptomatic of a political system that stopped representing “The People” years ago. The whole body is a disgrace.


15 posted on 06/14/2011 6:32:47 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Kaslin

The most important factor about Anthony Wiener is that he lied. It is not important that you lied to me, the important thing is that I can never believe you again.

Revelation number two is the fact that he owes between 10K and 15k on his credit card. How can we possibly expect a sitting member of congress that is in debt to this degree at the highest possible interest rate (unless as a congressman he gets a special deal) to make a meaningful contribution toward solving our deficit problem? Can’t happen and won’t happen! He doesn’t have a clue. He needs to go.


16 posted on 06/14/2011 6:37:13 AM PDT by Saltmeat
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To: Kaslin
"If I were a member of Congress, I would not be livid at every one of my colleagues who had had an affair. But I would be livid at Weiner. Every day he remains a congressman, he makes every one of his colleagues look bad: You can send photos such as Weiner did to women around America and still remain a member of this institution."

At the risk of sounding cynical and jaded, I suspect that a majority (yes, greater than 50%) of our congress critters are reluctant to condemn the sleaze and deceit of their fellows, lest their own sleaze and deceit be exposed.

17 posted on 06/14/2011 6:39:23 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Saltmeat
Revelation number two is the fact that he owes between 10K and 15k on his credit card...

It could be that $10K-15K is merely his monthly balance, and he is using the credit card for convenience, not as a continuing line of credit. He is a pretty high-income person, and monthly expenses of that level are not out of the question.

18 posted on 06/14/2011 6:41:22 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you can read this / (To paraphrase on old line) / Thank a TAXPAYER!.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

“People expect a shred of dignity from the legislative body that facilitates the murder of unborn children? I’d say that horse has been out of the barn for a while.

Weiner is just symptomatic of a political system that stopped representing “The People” years ago. The whole body is a disgrace.”

Unfortunately our elected officials are a mirror image of our society as a whole.


19 posted on 06/14/2011 6:42:39 AM PDT by Saltmeat
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To: Kaslin

This is what you get when one member of Congress (Charlie Schumer) invents the career of and annoints a new member of Congress. Weiner is beholden to no one except Charlie Schumer - and has always acted that way.

Why does Congress have it’s own gym ? What would the Founders have to say about that ?

Our economy has gone of the rails because we have morally and ethically wandered far off the right path.


20 posted on 06/14/2011 6:43:05 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Conservative Christian Capitalists - I encourage you to visit my Profile)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Put it this way: If Barney Frank didn’t resign after sodomizing his pages, Weiner has even less reason to.


21 posted on 06/14/2011 6:44:07 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Saltmeat
Unfortunately our elected officials are a mirror image of our society as a whole.

This ^^^

22 posted on 06/14/2011 6:46:05 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Kaslin
What Weiner Did Was Worse Than an Affair

I doubt his wife agrees with that.

From a PR perspective though it was, getting caught sending pics of your junk around is a lot more embarrassing than getting caught having an affair.

23 posted on 06/14/2011 6:47:11 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: massgopguy

That’s is what I think, he is a pervert. He is in love with himself and his jewels and he’s drunk on power. He is a danger to America.


24 posted on 06/14/2011 6:48:39 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Weiner is a sex offender and should ware the label in public.

Some people on FR are totally over the top on this wiener BS. One: he sent pictures to women who most likely, judging from what the first "victim" said in her initial interviews(she called him her "boyfriend"),were consenting to whatever he sent to them. Consensual sex between adults doesn't make you a sex offender, especially when no laws were broken. I am glad the law doesn't apply the type of thinking to other laws that some FReepers want to apply to this non crime(but sleazy act).

The guy should resign, simply because if you are too stupid to keep your sex life out of the news you are too stupid to be one of the people in charge of running the country.

25 posted on 06/14/2011 6:51:46 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Impy

I think his wife might agree. When your husband uses other women, numerous women, to get himself off that is cheating. And apparently he confided in some of these women perhaps more then he did his wife. I don’t know about any of you gals out there but if my hubby did this, a jar of nuts comes to mind.


26 posted on 06/14/2011 6:53:46 AM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: calex59

I’d feel otherwise if it were my 16 or 17 year old daughter.


27 posted on 06/14/2011 6:54:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Put it this way: If Barney Frank didn’t resign after sodomizing his pages, Weiner has even less reason to.

Wiener is being used to take the heat off of Bozo and the Libya conflict and his poor performance in general. People have let this become a major distraction. This was essentially a non event that has been blown way out of proportion. Other Dimwit congressmen and senators have done far worse and kept their positions and have even been re-elected, so you have to ask yourself, "why all the fuss over this guy"?

28 posted on 06/14/2011 6:55:52 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

He didn’t send any pictures to the 17 yo, maybe he would have but the fact remains he didn’t. This sh** about wiener is being blown way out of proportion in order to take the heat off of Bozo and it is working. He committed no crime and people keep losing sight of the fact he DID NOT send photos to the 17 yo, only to consenting adult women who now find it convenient to trash wiener.


29 posted on 06/14/2011 6:59:08 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
especially when no laws were broken

This has yet to be determined.

30 posted on 06/14/2011 7:00:03 AM PDT by frogjerk (Liberalism: The ideology of envy.)
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To: calex59
I'll defer to your overview of the Weiner case. I thought I heard there was a 17 year old recipient of pix...
31 posted on 06/14/2011 7:04:18 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: calex59
This was essentially a non event that has been blown way out of proportion.

We don't even know what happened as more and more is coming out every day about this guy. So I would refrain from calling it a non-event.

Secondly, why would you allow this protected class (politicians) not to get the scrutiny they deserve by accepting their outrageous behavior while on the taxpayer's dime?

32 posted on 06/14/2011 7:06:48 AM PDT by frogjerk (Liberalism: The ideology of envy.)
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To: Kaslin

Would a 17-yr old high school male student be allowed to come to school without any punishment had the teachers found him sending his penis picture to his female classmates?


33 posted on 06/14/2011 7:08:58 AM PDT by paudio (The differences between Clinton and 0bama? About a dozen of former Democratic Congressmen.)
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To: DManA

From what I read his “wife” is unfaithful to him. She is married to her job.

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Nice. I gotcha, she ‘cheated’ first.

Hard to imagine that anyone would get that takeaway from this story.


34 posted on 06/14/2011 7:10:34 AM PDT by dmz
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To: calex59
This sh** about wiener is being blown way out of proportion in order to take the heat off of Bozo and it is working.

If that was the case then Obami's approval rating would be going up, which it isn't.

35 posted on 06/14/2011 7:11:33 AM PDT by frogjerk (Liberalism: The ideology of envy.)
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To: dmz

They both cheated when they pretended to get married.


36 posted on 06/14/2011 7:15:26 AM PDT by DManA
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Furthermore, we understand that marital infidelity can be solely a matter between a husband and wife,

I thought infidelity by its nature involves at least one third party ... Great article, though, on the Dems' low standards.
37 posted on 06/14/2011 7:16:13 AM PDT by hemogoblin
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To: Kaslin
When a member of Congress sends pictures of his penis to women around the country, he has demeaned Congress.

That something so obvious has to be stated means I no longer recognize the country I live in...

38 posted on 06/14/2011 7:22:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. - - Orwell)
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To: Kaslin

Any sane person of any political party who has listened to Anthony Weiner knows he is just an il-tempered punk with no particular value beyond his criticism of others. He had been of value as an attack dog with bad manners, but like any such creature, his utility is limited when the job calls for much more.


39 posted on 06/14/2011 7:24:43 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Put it this way: If Barney Frank didn’t resign after sodomizing his pages, Weiner has even less reason to.

I thought Barney Frank's lover was running a male whorehouse out of his basement... you're saying pages were involved?

Anyone ask Barney how he feels about the Weiner - always fun to hear dem morally-bankrupt blather...

40 posted on 06/14/2011 7:30:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. - - Orwell)
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To: Kaslin

He was trolling for young women and the younger the better.


41 posted on 06/14/2011 7:31:49 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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Let's be honest: The reason the Dems aren't rallying around Weiner is because of the Hillary/Huma connection...

Weinergate Featuring Barney Frank
42 posted on 06/14/2011 7:33:13 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Kaslin

At someen the course of his travails, Bill Clinton said he’d get through it all as long as there were no pictures. That’s where Weiner screwed up: it was nearly all pictures.


43 posted on 06/14/2011 8:29:21 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: massgopguy
Weiner essentially “flashed” women. He should have to register as a Sex Offender.

Exactly. 'Tis refreshing to view a FReeper's comments who "gets it."

The only problem is...they'd actually have to start arresting porn stars for prostitution...which I think they should...

But then, there would go Congress' (& men in general) porn market...and there's not exactly any public will to do that...

So the land one-time honored to celebrate July 4 continues on its slide beyond Sodom & Gomorrah...

No wonder it seems like we're under economic judgment.

44 posted on 06/14/2011 8:37:25 AM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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To: massgopguy
Thanks to Amy Winehouse we have a "song" that is easily adjusted to Tony's circumstance:

To Wit:

Huma tried to make me go to rehab, I said, "No, no, no"

Yes, I've been hacked but when I come back you'll “no, no, no”

I ain't got the time and if Pelosi thinks I'm fine

Huma tried to make me go to rehab, I had to go, go, go

I'd rather be at home with Ebay

I ain't got seventeen days

'Cause there's nothing, there's nothing you can tweet me

That I can't learn from Mr. Hannity

I didn’t get a lot of sass,

But that picture was shot through glass

They tried to make me go to rehab, I said, "No, no, no"

Yes, I've been hacked but when I come back you'll “no, no, no”

I ain't got the time and if Pelosi thinks I'm fine

Huma tried to make me go to rehab, I gotta’ go, go, go

The man said, "Why do you think you here?"

I said, "I got no idea"

I'm gonna, I'm gonna lose my baby

So I always keep a laptop near

She said, "I just think you're obsessed

Tweet me, yeah baby and go rest"

Huma tried to make me go to rehab, I said, "No, no, no"

Yes, I've been hacked but when I come back you'll “no, go, go”

I don't ever wanna post again

I just, ooh, I just need a friend

I'm not gonna spend ten weeks

Have everyone think I'm on the mend

And it's not just my hide

It's just 'til these tears have dried

Huma tried to make me go to rehab, I said, "No, no, no"

Yes, I've been hacked but when I come back you'll “no, go, go”

I ain't got the time and if Pelosi thinks I'm fine

Huma tried to make me go to rehab, I had to go, go, go

45 posted on 06/14/2011 9:23:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: calex59
I think you don't understand ~ WE don't want Tony to resign. Democrats want him to resign. WE want him to stick it out and serve as a veritable SIGN POST for the public to know where the Democrats stand on all the issues ~

This dude, by himself, is worth a billion dollars in campaign financing.

Really, I never imagined I'd ever see a Constitutional majority in the House ~ where we had 3/4 of the votes and could almost rule by decree ~ but here it is. The time is now. The iron is hot. Time to cast the die!

46 posted on 06/14/2011 9:29:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

Weiners behavior was more disgusting and more embarrassing for Congress than having a mistress. It is less understandable. If he had a local mistress that he saw while Huma was gallivanting around the world with Hillary, it would be a moral failing but more “normal.”. Some would even have sympathy for Weiner as a beard for Huma.

Weiner comes off as a pervy loser now, not a lonely husband who fell in love with another woman than his wife.


47 posted on 06/14/2011 9:37:12 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: All
All politicians have a fatal flaw----they are madly in love with themselves and they need constant validation. That this pervert would actually take a pic of himself stark naked holding his private part shows Weiner seems to have a particularly virulent case of self-love. He actually had no compunction displaying this perverted behavior.

Apparently, what we see as sexual misbehavior, is politicians' sick way of attaining the ego gratification they desperately need.

I am now more believing of Clinton when he said "he did not have sexual relations" with Lewinsky. He really believed that...... b/c in his warped mind, he was not getting a BJ---having a woman on her knees in an act of obeisance was his massive ego getting validated.

Weiner is in the same place. Weiner AND Clinton's sexploits were a way to feed their massive egos.

This type veers toward politics to get the status they think they are entitled to, as well as public adulation and approval. (Anything they can steal with earmarks, and the like, is a plus.)

48 posted on 06/14/2011 4:07:15 PM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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