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Barney Frank and Ron Paul unite - over weed (FRUIT AND NUT ALERT)
Daily Caller ^ | 6-22-2011 | Caroline May

Posted on 06/22/2011 6:07:47 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Barney Frank and Ron Paul unite - over weed

Caroline May

June 22, 2011

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Thursday the pair plan together to unveil legislation to legalize marijuana.

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Other co-sponsors include Tennessee Democratic Rep. Steve Cohen, Michigan Democratic John Conyers, Colorado Democratic Rep. Jared Polis and California Democratic Rep. Barbara Lee.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: barneyfrank; bongbrigade; dopefiends; doritosparty; frankbeans; illegalaliens; libertarians; massachusetts; medicalmarijuana; moonbattery; paultards; ronpaul; spammonkeys; texas
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To: ansel12

You accepted transfats, as things that shouldn’t be legal, that puts you squarely in the democrat / nannystate camp.

If the Federal Government wants to ban drugs, they need to amend the Constitution to do so.

The Constitution gives the Federal Government limited powers. Making marijuana illegal isn’t on the list.

This just gets rid of one tiny bit of Federal Government power.

Making the Federal Government smaller is the point of conservatism, certainly tea party conservatism.

There’s an odd section of conservatives who seem to think like this. I am a Conservative. I want you to ban x, y, z.
If you ban x, y, z, you are a Conservative too. Completely devoid of real core principle. Containing only a set of preferences. I don’t like drugs. Oxycontin is fine, heroin is awful. The Federal Government has to be involved.

Just let the states handle it.

Conservatives are the ones who want the smaller government.


121 posted on 06/22/2011 7:49:36 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Oscar the Grouch; ohioWfan

The six co-sponsors of the bill are Massachusetts Democratic Rep.Barney Frank, Tennessee Democratic Rep. Steve Cohen, Michigan Democratic Rep. John Conyers, Colorado Democratic Rep. Jared Polis, California Democratic Rep. Barbara Lee, and Texas Republican-Libertarian-Loon Ron Paul.

A regular TEA Party Express!!! /s


122 posted on 06/22/2011 7:52:19 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: KEVLAR
I stated my views on prohibition upthread and the reasons behind them.

(The situations are different)

123 posted on 06/22/2011 7:53:09 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: smoothsailing

Yep. When I hear the names Barney Frank, John Conyers and Barbara Lee, the very first thing that comes to mind is the Tea Party. HA!!


124 posted on 06/22/2011 7:54:47 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: smoothsailing
The madness of Ron Paul.

Ron Paul has decided to roll the dice and use the Obama economic crisis, the Obama anti-Israel crisis, the democrat repeated sex-perversion crisis, etc. as a good time to cause a liberal DISTRACTION (or to mimic Rahm Emmanuel and use this crisis as a good opportunity to push a liberal social agenda).

Is Ron Paul insane, or is he just a closet liberal crawling into bed with a reprobate sex pervert to give cover to a horrible President with declining poll numbers?

If you think this is not a help to Obama, you are as ignorant as Ron Paul, or you are just another statistic of forty years of liberal brainwashing.

125 posted on 06/22/2011 7:56:14 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: smoothsailing
...California Democratic Rep. Barbara Lee, and Texas Republican-Libertarian-Loon Ron Paul.

You gotta admit that, with the country going to hell in a handbasket, ol' Ron once again demonstrated his unerring ability to shoot straight through to the fringe of the subject.

126 posted on 06/22/2011 7:57:50 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: ohioWfan

Sorry, I find fault with most of your posts. I’m not certain to which one you are referring.

No matter, this legislation will go no where and millions of Americans will continue to smoke pot.


127 posted on 06/22/2011 7:58:09 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: truthfreedom

You are clearly drug addled, and you keep ignoring my posts.

Quit with that nonsensical BS, the tea party isn’t saying that everything should be legal as long as it isn’t federal.

Do you think that the tea party is pro polygamy, as long as it is merely in individual states?


128 posted on 06/22/2011 7:58:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: GraceG

“Pot or alcohol users should never get govt’ assistance.”

Bingo. We have a winner.


129 posted on 06/22/2011 7:59:05 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: truthfreedom
You should understand that this legislation is pure tea party limited constitutional government. I don’t know, or care, who the other co sponsors are. It simply limits the power of the federal government. That is tea party.

I agree 100%, but you're pissing up a rope. Far too many "Conservatives" here that are just fine and dandy with an overreaching Federal Government when it suits their needs.
130 posted on 06/22/2011 8:00:55 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: Allegra; mnehring
And so many of the Paultards get employee discounts at Taco Bell, making this even better for them.

Maybe when they get back they'll post a group photo, you know how they love to show off. I bet they really strike a pose in their Taco Bell uniforms!

131 posted on 06/22/2011 8:01:35 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: ansel12

Well you seem to be angry about something.

You’re changing the subject to polygamy. I have no idea about that. Is that an issue that’s currently being discussed? I don’t think it is. I don’t have a position on non-issues.

The central principle of the tea party is limited constitutional government.

There might be social conservatives who aren’t tea party who might object to this limiting of the power of the federal government. But this is straight forward tea party legislation.

It will be interesting to see what Michelle Bachmann does here. Is she going to be tea party or social conservative?


132 posted on 06/22/2011 8:03:41 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: KEVLAR
You find fault with most of my posts? Interesting.

You must be a Paulite, eh? And thinking that consorting with the far left is acceptable? MORE interesting.

At any rate, I looked and didn't make too many specific statements about prohibition.

Alcohol consumption was legal and a federal law made it illegal. Alcohol is acceptable (even Scripturally) in moderation, but not in excess, so there was no legal or moral grounds for banning it.

Marijuana is a mind altering drug being sold to kids (along with the bill of goods that it's not harmful). There is no purpose for it other than getting high. It is very different from alcohol, and should never become legal.

I also agreed that I have no problem with it's becoming a state decision and that I believe the punishment for its use (not its distribution) should be lessened.

I hope that's an adequate enough explanation of my views.

133 posted on 06/22/2011 8:05:25 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: steveab

Why not just revoke the citizenship of anyone who has ever had a drink?

We all pay for these programs through our taxes.

Do you consider SS and unemployment “assistance”?

We could just delete an individuals account in the case of these two as if they never paid in.


134 posted on 06/22/2011 8:06:46 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: WackySam

Some agree, but others don’t.

There are some statists, but there a certainly a big number of tea partiers who will support this.

This doesn’t legalize anything.

Tea partiers will get that, and understand that if they live in Oklahoma, they can have all the laws they want.

Social Conservatives can have all the laws they want in their own states, and Tea Party Conservatives can have a Smaller Federal Government, which is what the tea party wants.


135 posted on 06/22/2011 8:07:35 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Old Landmarks
The madness of Ron Paul.

Ron Paul, beyond being most likely certfiably insane, is also an evil bastard who cares not a whit about the chaos he creates.

136 posted on 06/22/2011 8:07:51 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: WackySam
Doesn't the fact that lib Paul conspired on this bill with a group of hardcore GIANT government leftists bother you at all?

You really think that's what conservatism is all about? Really??

Kinda wacky, Sam. :)

137 posted on 06/22/2011 8:08:04 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: truthfreedom

Tea Party is not Libertarian.
And many (if not most) Tea Party supporters ARE social conservative.
Tea party developed more from (Federal) Government spending and its NEW power grabs.
It is those who would hijack the Tea Party brand (Campaign 4 Liberty anyone?) that are trying to turn it into anti Fed... in more ways than one.


138 posted on 06/22/2011 8:10:05 PM PDT by Optimist
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To: ohioWfan

Nope, not a fan of Dr. Paul.

If Nancy Pelosi started supporting the second amendment should I oppose it or continue to think and act for my self?

Sorry, I don’t agree. We are talking about adults here, unless you are suggesting we should lower the drinking age to include children.

Wrong on purpose. Are the millions of Americans drinking at any given moment medicating themselves or getting a buzz in a social setting?


139 posted on 06/22/2011 8:11:51 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: truthfreedom
Is she going to be tea party or social conservative?

WHOA there, buddy!

Are you trying to say that you can't be both? That a social conservative cannot be a tea party conservative?

Is that what you Paulites really think? That the only conservatism is small government only, and that morality and social conservatism (as supported by our Founding Fathers) is NOT a part of being a complete conservative?

Is that what you're really saying? That being pro-life, or anti-marijuana legalization makes one a 'statist?'

Wow.

140 posted on 06/22/2011 8:12:31 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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