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Barney Frank and Ron Paul unite - over weed (FRUIT AND NUT ALERT)
Daily Caller ^ | 6-22-2011 | Caroline May

Posted on 06/22/2011 6:07:47 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Barney Frank and Ron Paul unite - over weed

Caroline May

June 22, 2011

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Thursday the pair plan together to unveil legislation to legalize marijuana.

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Other co-sponsors include Tennessee Democratic Rep. Steve Cohen, Michigan Democratic John Conyers, Colorado Democratic Rep. Jared Polis and California Democratic Rep. Barbara Lee.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: barneyfrank; bongbrigade; dopefiends; doritosparty; frankbeans; illegalaliens; libertarians; massachusetts; medicalmarijuana; moonbattery; paultards; ronpaul; spammonkeys; texas
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To: truthfreedom

You are a spaced out dope head that is wired to the gills right now.

Polygamy is very much a topic today as is the idea of redefining homosexual relationships as “marriage”

The tea party isn’t saying that everything should be legal as long as it isn’t federal.

Do you think that the tea party is pro polygamy, and wants to leave it to the states?


141 posted on 06/22/2011 8:13:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: ohioWfan
Doesn't the fact that lib Paul conspired on this bill with a group of hardcore GIANT government leftists bother you at all?

Nope, not at all. It's reducing the power of the Federal Government, and returning that power to where it belongs.

You really think that's what conservatism is all about? Really??

It's at the very heart of what Conservatism *should* be all about- limited, and Constitutional government. Let the states decide.
142 posted on 06/22/2011 8:16:08 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: Optimist

This bill isn’t Libertarian. Ron Paul isn’t Libertarian.

This bill is Limited Constitution Government.
The Tea Party is Limited Constitutional Government.
Ron Paul is Limited Constitutional Government.

This bill lets the states decide.

These are conservative principles.


143 posted on 06/22/2011 8:18:28 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Optimist
Once the Fed Govt “legalizes it” it will be interpreted as legal in the US regardless of what states want until the states act upon restricting it.

They already do. Check your own state laws.

144 posted on 06/22/2011 8:18:56 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: KEVLAR
So you are saying that if a so-called conservative works together on a bill with all hardcore leftists that thinking for oneself requires one to look away and ignore the obvious? That the bill is highly suspect?

I would say that's being 'wrong on purpose.'

Alcohol and marijuana are different. There is no purpose (other than rare medicinal reasons) for marijuana other than getting high. If one has a glass of wine with a meal, the purpose is taste, not a 'buzz.' In fact, if you're eating, there isn't any buzz at all.

Marijuana is a harmful drug, often leading its users into harder drugs (the point of the dealers), and it should not be legalized, and Ron Paul is just exhibiting his lack of conservatism once again by working together with the far left to sponsor this bill.

145 posted on 06/22/2011 8:19:03 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: ansel12

I don’t think that polygamy is relevant to what we’re talking about here.


146 posted on 06/22/2011 8:19:40 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: WackySam

The heart of conservatism is preserving our culture and traditional America, not leftists anti-conservative suicide pacts.

You guys and the rest of the left have made extraordinary radical gains in the last 50 years, and we are a shell of what we used to be, because of it.


147 posted on 06/22/2011 8:19:51 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: smoothsailing

Fruit and Nut...... LMAO


148 posted on 06/22/2011 8:19:53 PM PDT by tioga (2012 - the year Obama gets slapped down....coming soon.)
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To: WackySam
Nope, not at all.

I'm glad that you made that confession here on a conservative board, where the goals are overall conservatism, including moral conservatism, and where conspiring with leftists is frowned on.

If you think that limited government is all there is to conservatism, then you are only a fraction of a conservative.

And as a social conservative, I'd say you're devoid of some of the most critical elements of the conservative movement.....and therefore not much of a conservative at all.

149 posted on 06/22/2011 8:23:05 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: ohioWfan

Do you agree that an individual state like South Dakota should be able to outlaw abortion?


150 posted on 06/22/2011 8:25:50 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: truthfreedom
I have to ask this question because I know how the Ron Paul organization works....

Have you been paid to promote this leftist bill for lib Paul?

I know he pays people to vote for him, so I assume he also pays people to infiltrate conservative forums and post the kind of propaganda you've been posting here.

Are you a paid employee, or just a lackey?

151 posted on 06/22/2011 8:27:35 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Yes. Why?


152 posted on 06/22/2011 8:28:13 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: truthfreedom

Of course it is, tell us about the tea party and polygamy.


153 posted on 06/22/2011 8:29:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: ohioWfan
I do as well... because it's same concept. The left allows their states like California and others to quietly nullify federal drug laws with medical weed. But if a state like South Dakote tries to pass an abortion ban it's terrible & so on.

States have different cultures & should be allowed to be different. Reagan believed that and so do I.
154 posted on 06/22/2011 8:31:40 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: KEVLAR
No matter, this legislation will go no where and millions of Americans will continue to smoke pot.

Untaxed by the government.

155 posted on 06/22/2011 8:32:52 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: ohioWfan

Well, I guess what I mean is she going to listen to the
social conservative “drugs are bad” argument, or is she going to listen to the tea party “limited constitutional government” argument.

It is easy to argue that you’re both a tea party conservative and a social conservative. But only if you take the tea party position. You say, the Federal Government shouldn’t be involved, but I’d vote to keep marijuana illegal, and I think that most states should keep it illegal. If I was Governor, I’d keep it illegal. But, the Federal Government should be out of this. I’m voting to limit the power of the federal government, voting to make the federal government smaller. All standard conservative positions.

Not the Irving Kristol doesn’t like McGovern’s foreign policy, so his ideas get called conservative by a socialist
positions. Limited Constitutional Government is the True Conservative wing of the Republican Party.


156 posted on 06/22/2011 8:33:47 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: ohioWfan

Wrong on all counts.

I support what I believe in regardless of who else supports it.

They are not that much different.

Used responsibly and in moderation, they do not cause any problems for a great many adults. I don’t think anyone has suggested either is OK for children. Not relevant.

Alcohol is a intoxicant, addictive and a “gateway drug”.

The harm caused to society by it’s abuse far outweighs the harm caused by pot.

The harm caused by trying to eliminate it’s use outweighs the harm the drug itself has caused.

One can kill you all on it’s own simply by overuse, the other does not.

Don’t take my word for it, please do some research on your own.


157 posted on 06/22/2011 8:37:19 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: ohioWfan

I want to see the vote because this is devisive for Dems. Those who see what drugs to to the inner city are against this so the party will split on this.


158 posted on 06/22/2011 8:37:19 PM PDT by byteback
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To: truthfreedom
I'd like to know when you partial conservatives made up the rules for who is and who isn't a Tea Party conservative.

I've been part of the movement from the beginning, and there weren't any libertarians making up rules. It has always been a grass roots movement involving all kinds of conservatives, but especially those of us who are across the board conservatives, and not, shall I say, "limited" conservatives as you are.

I still want an answer to the question as to whether or not you have been paid to post these robotic responses, expressing an incomplete and inaccurate view of what the Tea Party is all about.

Ron Paul is far too liberal to be the face of the Tea Party movement. And this bill proves it in spades.

159 posted on 06/22/2011 8:38:42 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: ohioWfan

I’ve been here longer than you have.

I’m just like everyone else here. You’ll see me defending Palin on many a post. I like Bachmann as well. I don’t like the establishment candidates. So, you’ll find we there attacking them. Isn’t that what everybody does?

I guess for some reason, you didn’t realize that the central core of the tea party is limited constitutional government.
And that this bill is exactly limited constitutional government.


160 posted on 06/22/2011 8:39:07 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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