Posted on 06/23/2011 7:17:26 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
I think that their understanding of the life of a "noble savage" is seriously defective. They're mostly effete urbanites, completely disconnected from the hard work necessary to make civilized life possible. I refer to both urban and rural hard work. In their eyes, you flip a switch, the lights come on. Turn a handle, water comes out. Push a lever, the turds disappear. Go to the grocery, food is on the shelf. How did all this happen? Magic, apparently.
W, I'm not clear on your background so bear with me. ZC, you're a country boy. I'm ... whatever it is that I am ... but I have plenty of dirt and plenty of seawater (at differnt times) in my past and present. We know perfectly well that the niceties of civilization aren't magic. We've made them (or know the people who do), we've lived without them, and we understand how thin and fragile a barrier they are to a life which would be very unpleasant. Savagery is no fun. This understanding gives a very different, and much more realistic perspective on the world than that of the "elites". This, of course, is completely aside from any religious differences we have with them.
Again, the idea of human perfectibility and the hatred of man in the name of "nature" don't seem to harmonize.
An observation, and an answer. I observe that the idea of human perfectability and the embrace of buggery (both among the self-imagined elites) don't seem to harmonize either. consistency does not seem to be their strong suit. I answer that most of them do not hate Man per se, they hate Lesser Men (untermenschen), and wish to eliminate them. Perfect Man, which they imagine themselves to exemplify, are just fine ... so long as there aren't too many. Only an extreme radical few want to eliminate Man entirely.
Some of them do. They are like that henwitted actress that came back from visiting some primitive village squealing in delight that she "poo'ed in the woods like a animal!" They are no different then the communist who will wax eloquent about how they want to live like a 12th century peasant.
The rest of them and these are the majority, think that they will live in solar powered manor houses and be the philosopher kings wisely leading their adoring subjects.
Of course it make no sense. No matter what they think these are not very "bright" people. Unless you mean "naturally bright" in the same way that the author of "The University of Hard Knocks" did.
Maybe you could say that they lack common sense and logical reasoning ability.
In the old days only leftists wanted eugenics, such as Mrgaret Sanger
exactly.
Every time we read about public officials and public servants doing something bad, its the taxpayers who get sued and made to pay up.
Dimbulb should try crapping in the woods (or even a pit latrine) for a month. It'll get old in a right hurry.
Hmm ... "Actress"!!!
Wonder how she'd enjoy experiencing her complete cycle a couple of times without benefit of modern sanitation and hygiene ...
That'll be loads of fun. There's a reason it's called "on the rag" ...
These twerps have NO clue.
That was one of the more disturbing ones.
They should. Elected governments "derive their just powers from the consent of the governed".
The majority of taxpayers either elected these evil SOBs or did not vote against them. None of this was done in secret, it might have been done quietly but people knew. Since they did nothing to change things then, they approved.
That is why you should watch your elected officials like hawks. They have sought power so by definition they are not to be trusted.
Thank you for compiling all those statements. It has been uplifting seeing what most of the FReepers on this thread have had to say. FReepers and chocolatiers (not necessarily in that order) are the greatest people on earth.
I have often thought that they should be forced to live as they want to force on the rest of us for a couple of years.
For my sins I have had to chaperon a group of young people on a mission trip. They come in with stars in their eyes. By the fourth day the stars have dimmed a bit. :)
I am not making fun of them, I actually admire them because they move out of their comfortable lives to help other people. They do a great deal of good. And by the time the project is done they have grown up a bit. And I have yet to meet one that sang the praises of the primitive life.
Hear, hear!
Thanks for an excellent post, and thanks for the ping.
Excellent discussion. Thanks to you all.
“Sadly, I think there are people on FR who would advocate this kind of thing.”
Possibly the liberal faction. Liberals are all for sterilization and any other form of population control. In fact, wasn’t this the central theme of planned parenthood at the time of its founding? Who was that evil witch? I am having a brain cramp and can’t remember her name....
Don’t try to put words in my mouth then condemn me for what you made up yourself! I emphasized VOLUNTARY sterilization for those irresponsible parents who desired to continue bleeding the welfare system, otherwise their dole would be reduced or cut off. I have neither stated nor implied that I support eugenics, which I certainly do NOT. Moreover, if you can’t understand how the welfare system has virtually destoyed an entire segment of our society, then you are a part of the problem!
JC
>> Sadly, I think there are people on FR who would advocate this kind of thing.
Sadly, I really don’t have the practical right to voice my opinion of those that support and practice the twisted process of forced sterilization.
Forced sterilization is among the most horrific violations that can be perpetrated against an individual. Supporters of the practice are closet Pro-Aborts in my opinion.
>> FR is a pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty site
excellent recap, darrellmaurina.
As bcsco wrote, “Such palpably disgusting thoughts as were presented here by I Buried My Guns cannot go unanswered. It’s up to all of us to condemn any and all such garbage. It cannot go unchallenged.”
When people advocate wickedness in the name of conservatism, we need to speak up and make clear that we reject it. In the minds of a lot of people, silence implies agreement.
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