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To: surroundedbyblue
Sadly, I think there are people on FR who would advocate this kind of thing.

And I still do. Someone who is irresponsible enough to pop out or sire a child (or in many situations, children) that will have to be paid for by the state should be required to be spayed or neutered as a condition of taking welfare (I'd throw in exceptions if a girl or woman was raped). Our country is going broke paying for these kinds of programs and the population of people who spend their entire lives on some form of welfare is going higher and higher. These people continue to lavish themselves at the expense of those of us who actually contribute something to society. Where does it end?

Will any rewards paid out to these people have the costs that the state paid to raise their children deducted?

11 posted on 06/23/2011 7:39:53 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

It ends when the entitlements end, not when we devale human life.

I pity people like you who just don’t get it. Sick.


12 posted on 06/23/2011 7:41:35 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: pnh102

It ends when the entitlements end, not when we devalue human life.

I pity people like you who just don’t get it. Sick.


13 posted on 06/23/2011 7:41:47 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: pnh102; surroundedbyblue; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
And I still do. Someone who is irresponsible enough to pop out or sire a child (or in many situations, children) that will have to be paid for by the state should be required to be spayed or neutered as a condition of taking welfare (I'd throw in exceptions if a girl or woman was raped). Our country is going broke paying for these kinds of programs and the population of people who spend their entire lives on some form of welfare is going higher and higher. These people continue to lavish themselves at the expense of those of us who actually contribute something to society.

So, I assume you think that "Three generations of imbeciles is enough," was one of the Supreme Court's greatest rulings?

Are you aware that very few of the victims of the eugenics programs ever had children? Or, do you think it was probably better that way?

Since you believed that it is okay for the government to forcibly sterilize people do you also believe that it would be okay for the government to force women to have abortions? What about death panels, I assume you are all in favor of them too?

You do realize that Free Republic is a PRO-LIFE forum don't you?

16 posted on 06/23/2011 7:47:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: pnh102
And I still do. Someone who is irresponsible enough to pop out or sire a child.
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There are many ways to stop people from breeding for welfare money. Permanent sterilization should never be one of them.

I have no problem with that 5 year birth control. If your getting welfare money for your kids, I think it is completely reasonable to limit you from having anymore. At least until you are able to support them.

However, the real problem is that the state does not force people off welfare. They need to make getting welfare more trouble than it's worth. It should always be a safety blanket, not a lifestyle choice.

60 posted on 06/23/2011 9:42:21 AM PDT by kara37
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To: pnh102

The better solution is to quit paying women to have babies on welfare.

And then cut, hack, and slash the welfare program to nothing.

There shouldn’t even be welfare by the state, much less forced sterilizations for those on it.


67 posted on 06/23/2011 10:07:10 AM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: pnh102

end the entitlement, that is the solution


132 posted on 06/23/2011 1:04:34 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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