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Behind N.Y. Gay Marriage, an Unlikely Mix of Forces (Super-rich pushed through NY gay vote)
NYTimes ^ | June 25, 2011 | MICHAEL BARBARO

Posted on 06/26/2011 5:30:06 AM PDT by NYer

In the 35th-floor conference room of a Manhattan high-rise, two of Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo’s most trusted advisers held a secret meeting a few weeks ago with a group of super-rich Republican donors.

Over tuna and turkey sandwiches, the advisers explained that New York’s Democratic governor was determined to legalize same-sex marriage and would deliver every possible Senate vote from his own party.

Would the donors win over the deciding Senate Republicans? It sounded improbable: top Republican moneymen helping a Democratic rival with one of his biggest legislative goals.

But the donors in the room — the billionaire Paul Singer, whose son is gay, joined by the hedge fund managers Cliff Asness and Daniel Loeb — had the influence and the money to insulate nervous senators from conservative backlash if they supported the marriage measure. And they were inclined to see the issue as one of personal freedom, consistent with their more libertarian views.

Within days, the wealthy Republicans sent back word: They were on board. Each of them cut six-figure checks to the lobbying campaign that eventually totaled more than $1 million.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cuomo; cuomosexualagenda; gaystapo; homofascists; homosexualagenda; marriage; newyork; ny; payola; perverts; republican; vichyrepublicans
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Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo at the bill-signing Friday with Thomas K. Duane, second from right, the Senate’s only openly gay member.
1 posted on 06/26/2011 5:30:13 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Liz; The Mayor; wagglebee; Sun; skully

Ping!


2 posted on 06/26/2011 5:32:15 AM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

These are not business people, mark my words, these are nothing more than ghetto squatters who stand in the way of heterosexual houses, preventing them from growing.

You will see their housing and ghetto investments go to crap, Detroit style.


3 posted on 06/26/2011 5:35:10 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: NYer

Now I feel that I am discriminated..as a single person!

I want the same rights—tax wise and bequething soc security—as these idiots.


4 posted on 06/26/2011 5:39:01 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: NYer

I looked up GLAAD on Wikipedia. These gay organizations are extremely rich and have heavy legal departments and they intend to roll right over all you peasants.

there were links to other gay and and lesbian organizations, there seems to be no end to them. they get taxpayer money, foundation money, donations from big corporations like Home Depot. You wonder how much the heads of these organizations make.

Combination of 1.) gays control most PR departments of big corporations plus 2.) gays heavily in the media and 3.) the amounts of $$ rolling in from the rich elites and 4.) very liberal judges is going to make it a hard fight.


5 posted on 06/26/2011 5:41:35 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: NYer

Wanna know what’s wrong with the GOP?

Take a good long look.


6 posted on 06/26/2011 5:57:22 AM PDT by Flintlock
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To: NYer

My Father is a trillionaire. I’ll continue to follow Him.

What is man who has but a breath in his nostrils. Of what account is he?


7 posted on 06/26/2011 5:58:38 AM PDT by MulberryDraw ( Switch off the EPA.)
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To: squarebarb

The very wealthy elites who use favorable tax policies to grow their wealth now pay back social conservatives by financing this effort.

We are kinda dumb at times.


8 posted on 06/26/2011 5:59:20 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Now I feel that I am discriminated..as a single person!

I want the same rights—tax wise and bequething soc security—as these idiots.

This is why I see this as a problem of the government's own making. Why does the government grant special benefits to certain groups of people? Shouldn't everyone have the same benefits and burdens of government?

I don't believe that there should be any form of government sanctioned marriage. Such matters should be left strictly in the realm of religion or whatever other non-government institution that consenting adults choose to use to solemnize their unions. Government should have no interest whatsoever in an adult's private living arrangements or relationship status.

9 posted on 06/26/2011 6:00:10 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: NYer

My son is caught in that web of homosexual deceit(to borrow from a professional on Sexual Orientation) I am NOT like the Reprobate singer.The Scripture is True. Modern Science has NOT trumped nor can it prove false what Scripture declares True. Money cannot buy acceptance, Nor what is Right.. the love of money is the root of all evil.Those who bought this LIE -or who were bought by this money are corrupt and do not represent me-and cannot buy me.The so called Republican who said it is a “basic right”needs to show me where anybody has a “basic Right” to have the State recognize/legitimize what they do? where is the compelling State interest in redefining what it accepts as “marriage” Where is the compelling State Interest in rejecting Religion and Morality Even Knowledge?For none of these fundamental principles of American Govt. can be reconciled to this vote. The so called Republican who said it is suddenly a vote of conscience-and the right thing to do” needs explain himself Or I will continue to say he acts as the beguiled serving the one who was a Liar from the beginning.John Jay would be most disappointed in NewYork- I doubt any of the Americans who formed that State would agree with this present EVIL.


10 posted on 06/26/2011 6:03:24 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: pnh102

“I don’t believe that there should be any form of government sanctioned marriage.”

Ditto.


11 posted on 06/26/2011 6:06:06 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: NYer

Great picture of Cuomo the Cabron - where are his little antlers? There was a time when a politician whose wife was not being well cared for at home was finished. Apparently that time is long ago and far away. But how, exactly, does NY’s First Cabron come out winners by signing on with the rump wranglers? Is he trying to depopulate the state?


12 posted on 06/26/2011 6:10:22 AM PDT by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: NYer

More proof of why Upstatehood is the only answer.


13 posted on 06/26/2011 6:12:48 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: pnh102
“This is why I see this as a problem of the government's own making. Why does the government grant special benefits to certain groups of people? Shouldn't everyone have the same benefits and burdens of government?

I don't believe that there should be any form of government sanctioned marriage. Such matters should be left strictly in the realm of religion or whatever other non-government institution that consenting adults choose to use to solemnize their unions. Government should have no interest whatsoever in an adult’s private living arrangements or relationship status.”

EXACTLY!! Thank you.

14 posted on 06/26/2011 6:18:39 AM PDT by Tazzo
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To: NYer

Gee...rich guys are libertarian. They want you to stay away from their money while the rest of the world goes to pot. Who’d a thunk it?


15 posted on 06/26/2011 6:19:06 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: NYer
If it had been voted on by referendum it never would have passed. But the elitists in the Govt. know better.
16 posted on 06/26/2011 6:26:40 AM PDT by ABN 505
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To: StonyBurk
My son is caught in that web of homosexual deceit(to borrow from a professional on Sexual Orientation)

I will pray for you and your son.

17 posted on 06/26/2011 6:48:04 AM PDT by montag813 (SECURE THE DAMN BORDER! http://www.StandWithArizona.com)
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To: pnh102

Absolutely correct!


18 posted on 06/26/2011 6:53:56 AM PDT by yadent
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To: padre35
The very wealthy elites who use favorable tax policies to grow their wealth now pay back social conservatives by financing this effort.

Very true. There has long been an assumption by many conservatives, and many conservative talk radio hosts, that all business people and the wealthy are naturally conservative.

The past few years has proven otherwise as we see Wall Street support Obama more than conservative candidates. And we saw the drug companies and medical insurers jump back-and-forth, for and against Obamacare depending largely on how they thought it affected their bottom line. No concern about the mushrooming size of government, just their bottom line.

And, of course, business interests will flood the nation with illegal aliens with little thought of the long term effects.

Conservatives definitely need to become much more discerning about their usual knee-jerk support of business interests.

19 posted on 06/26/2011 7:08:43 AM PDT by Will88
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To: pnh102; wagglebee
I don't believe that there should be any form of government sanctioned marriage.

Governments throughout time have always recognized marriage and recorded them for the purpose of inheritance etc.

What is NOT the governments purview is DEFINING marriage. That is the right of the church. And that is what is wrong with government declaring the right of homosexuals to "marry". Government has no right to redefine marriage.

20 posted on 06/26/2011 7:13:15 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: squarebarb

They just need to put it up to a vote of the People. They lose every time, there.


21 posted on 06/26/2011 7:41:34 AM PDT by MikeyB806 (Bachmann, the only man running for the GOP nomination)
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To: pnh102

The government has an interest in promoting people who create children to take responsibility for those children and for children to have both a mom and a dad to bring them up; when that is not promoted, the government ends up supporting more single moms and born-out-of-wedlock children. Heterosexual sex is the only way that children are made.

Homosexual sex produces nothing; the government has no interest in protecting homosexual couples.


22 posted on 06/26/2011 7:46:21 AM PDT by MikeyB806 (Bachmann, the only man running for the GOP nomination)
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To: webstersII

Well, if the government doesn’t promote marriage between heterosexuals, then it shouldn’t provide financial support to children born out of wedlock and/or their single moms. That way, people will again begin to appreciate the practical value of marriage, and homosexuals, who cannot procreate, will have no desire to participate in it.


23 posted on 06/26/2011 7:50:48 AM PDT by MikeyB806 (Bachmann, the only man running for the GOP nomination)
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To: Tazzo

As long as the government is giving special support to unmarried mothers and bastard children, it should be promoting marriage. When the government provides financial support for non-marriage, it turns it into a public issue.


24 posted on 06/26/2011 7:53:58 AM PDT by MikeyB806 (Bachmann, the only man running for the GOP nomination)
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To: MikeyB806
Homosexual sex produces nothing; the government has no interest in protecting homosexual couples.

Except that that is EXACTLY what they are doing. Homosexuals may be only 2% of the population but they have infiltrated media and also have powerful moneyed lobbies. Government elites want the influence and money.

25 posted on 06/26/2011 7:56:14 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Flintlock

Yep. They made their deal with the Devil and we all gonna pay for it.


26 posted on 06/26/2011 8:07:36 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: NYer

This was done by cuomo, period. A power loving whore. Don’t blame the “superrich”. With prostitution, there are always two criminals.


27 posted on 06/26/2011 8:09:10 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Lovers ARE fighters.)
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To: NYer
Expect New York
to resemble
Sodom and Gomorrah
in the near future.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

28 posted on 06/26/2011 8:46:53 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Will88

And this is how we get paid back, do notice Rush took thursday and friday off, he could have rallied people to call the state house, instead he played golf.


29 posted on 06/26/2011 8:58:24 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: NYer
It's nice to see these animals have so much respect for normal America and for children.


30 posted on 06/26/2011 9:11:14 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Will88

Yep, usual businesses are inherited and the heirs are usualy little ne’er do well useful idiots. They think of the workers as meat, and, to wit, their gayness would support viewing us as meat to exploit in factories or otherwise.

What is worse is the RINO sanctimony, wagging fingers, talking to us about honor and moralizing the Tparty. You see, this is premeditative murder because they plan all along (obviously) to dishonor us while denouncing their targets as potential dishonorable people or what not.

This is when we move from general idiocy to KNOWINGLY AND PREMEDITATIVELY shaping government to murder people, Nazi style. ANd the RINOs who worship appology while screwing their electorate are great at this, as well as are the democrates who are in on it, in Alinskian way.

So, what is happening is a precipitation of war. No more is there need to wait for them to repent because they have hardened now knowingly their hearts against any form of repent, premeditatively shaping the laws so they will get away with it when they come out of the closet.

This is a classic case of casus belly. The irony is that some of us are taking a lighter burden than having to deal with these idiots whose world is going to go Alzeimer’s way, because we grow and take it upon to share the shine to whomever wants to contribute to it. Meanwhile they are squatting like inner city rot and gangsters are not even going to be willing to get them whipped to work, why bother? THese ridiculous people are going to be washed away.


31 posted on 06/26/2011 11:01:43 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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Where are the wealthy conservatives putting money to defend the onslaught against traditional marriage and morality (aka as "real" marriage and "real" morality!)? Those shoving immorality and perversion on everyone else are driven, motivated and spending big bucks to do so. Are conservatives just hoping they'll stop where they are now? Boiling frog syndrome.

32 posted on 06/26/2011 11:04:06 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

bump


33 posted on 06/26/2011 11:05:07 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: NYer
In other words, these super-rich GOP members either promised or denied the reps campaign funds.

Nice.

34 posted on 06/26/2011 11:07:20 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: NYer
There's your money quote.

But, behind the scenes, it was really about a Republican Party reckoning with a profoundly changing power dynamic, where Wall Street donors and gay-rights advocates demonstrated more might and muscle than a Roman Catholic hierarchy and an ineffective opposition.

35 posted on 06/26/2011 11:13:22 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Flintlock

Wanna know what’s wrong with the GOP?

Take a good long look.


The GOP goes along with anything except ending tax loopholes for the rich.


36 posted on 06/26/2011 11:16:58 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

“Expect New York
to resemble
Sodom and Gomorrah
in the near future.”

As well as Iowa.


37 posted on 06/26/2011 11:18:06 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: NYer

Galatians 6:7-8 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

Payback is coming. They can control and manipulate and get away with it here, but payback IS coming.


38 posted on 06/26/2011 11:39:24 AM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: All; NYer

“And they were inclined to see the issue as one of personal freedom, consistent with their more libertarian views.”

Conservatives need to be wary of LIBertarians. They are not our friends.

And if I had a child, who was gay, I would still love my child, of course, but I would not become pro-gay “marriage.” People should stick with their values, even if their own child is in error.


39 posted on 06/26/2011 11:52:32 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: little jeremiah

Not wealthy conservatives: wealthy libertarians.


40 posted on 06/26/2011 11:55:28 AM PDT by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: squarebarb

“they get taxpayer money”

That is an outrage!! Would you happen to have a link handy about that?


41 posted on 06/26/2011 11:55:28 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: ABN 505

“If it had been voted on by referendum it never would have passed. But the elitists in the Govt. know better.”

Even in CA same-sex “marriage” was voted down.

I wonder how we can get a referendum system in NY for future major issues.


42 posted on 06/26/2011 12:02:51 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: sthguard

You mean wealthy libertarians are funding same sex marriage?


43 posted on 06/26/2011 12:16:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: NYer; Liz; All

From the article, Pg. 3:

‘“My management style,” the Senate majority leader, Dean G. Skelos of Long Island, had told lawmakers, “is that I let my members lead.”’

If Skelos doesn’t believe in leading, maybe the NY senate needs a new leader - a STRONG social conservative leader.

While Skelos is a good person, maybe he just isn’t strong enough for the job.


44 posted on 06/26/2011 12:53:38 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: montag813

Prayer always helps -I have made peace with the fact that my son will either repent and be reconciled—or he will one day reap the recompense due for his choice.IF we are separated it will not matter will it-he will be blotted out.There is a way that seems right to a man but the ends thereof is death.I can no more change what is written than I can force my son to believe as I do.


45 posted on 06/26/2011 1:40:38 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: little jeremiah

This surprises you? Libertarianism has always rejected conservative positions on moral issues.


46 posted on 06/26/2011 2:40:22 PM PDT by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: NYer
The republicans that signed on to this crap are dumb as rocks.
47 posted on 06/26/2011 2:42:45 PM PDT by linn37
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To: sthguard; All

This is something of a high water moment, the GOP pretty much caters to the wealthy for a host of reasons with the understanding being social issues are off of the table.

Now, the very same wealthy have stabbed social conservatives in the back, meanwhile rushbo is out on a long golfing weekend.

Can someone tell social conservatives a single, intelligible, reason to vote for a GOP candidate now? To knock on doors? to volunteer?

Can’t think of any.


48 posted on 06/26/2011 3:17:07 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Sun; Liz; The Mayor; narses
While Skelos is a good person, maybe he just isn’t strong enough for the job.

It's painful, I know. I think Skelos did his best, but he was up against a brick wall. Remember that the precedent for such a response, began with Marion Cuomo! Back in 1984 then-governor of New York Mario Cuomo gave a speech in which he outlined his ideas about how a Catholic politican who personally believed that things like abortion and divorce are wrong should approach their responsibilities towards a public comprised of Catholics who agree, Catholics who disagree, and non-Catholics who might disagree or agree. When should a politician attempt to impose their religious beliefs and doctrines on others?

privately opposed, but publicly supportive.

You can read his speech here.

Cuomo Sr. set the precedent that all of these politicians have followed.

49 posted on 06/26/2011 4:07:49 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: sthguard

Our wires crossed - I thought you meant libertarians spent money against fag marriage. Or should or something...

My duh.

Libertarians are worse then Dems in that regard because they pose as conservative.


50 posted on 06/26/2011 5:19:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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