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Americans are mad as hell (The Leftist view from Canada)
The Montreal Gazette ^ | July 2, 2011 | Jack Todd

Posted on 07/02/2011 2:13:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: GeronL

Yeah, a 15 year old pop star from a small town (Stratford Ontario. pop 32,000) is a very deep and serious political commentator.

Look out, Ann. Stand aside, Rush. Victor David Hanson, your views have been supplanted by the erudite and thorough analytical skills of one profoundly wise and brilliant child.

The beebster is now here.


81 posted on 07/02/2011 7:08:01 PM PDT by Don W (You can forget what you do for a living when your knees are in the breeze.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have a question for the FReepers. Is it really true that the Clinton administration had a budget surplus?


82 posted on 07/02/2011 7:09:45 PM PDT by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: GeronL

Then again, JB’s cognitive abilities are nearly as deep as the writer of this screed.

It’s rare to see such ignorance and stupidity all in one place. Gun control, socialized medicine AND anti-war leftist talking points all in one article. This guy created quite the target-rich environment, didn’t he?


83 posted on 07/02/2011 7:11:28 PM PDT by Don W (You can forget what you do for a living when your knees are in the breeze.)
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To: Terry Mross
The example you showed is perfectly legal, you'd owe $100. I have a $300 deductible on my insurance, until I have met that, I pay all bills and they appear the way you show. After my $300 deductible is met, I pay 20% and insurance pays 80% until I have paid my max out of pocket of $1,000 after that my ins pays 100%.

Everything appears on the up and up with yours.

If you had no ins, you would owe the entire $500 in your example, if you were on medicaid you'd owe $0. I know there's something wrong with that but that's the way it is.

84 posted on 07/02/2011 7:33:23 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Holy Cow. Where’s the barf alert?


85 posted on 07/02/2011 7:38:19 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: GeronL

Of course the beeber has been stuned too many times to be taken seriously.


86 posted on 07/02/2011 7:41:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

deranged drivel from a hating Marxist lunatic, nothing more.

The average baboon pounding on a keyboard could kick out phrases that make more sense.


87 posted on 07/02/2011 7:53:57 PM PDT by Babu
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy’s last name should be Off.


88 posted on 07/02/2011 8:01:35 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Mr. Romney and Mr. Obama are not rivals, they're running mates." - Rep. Thaddeus McCotter)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jack Todd, are you really that ignorant. OH... wait your a journalist, you guys get together and hold contests to see who is the most ignorant and then appoint the winner as editor.

Jack, you deserted, you no longer have the right to complain about anything in this nation. Put that in your pipe and smoke it fool.

89 posted on 07/02/2011 8:30:31 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: Graybeard58

This was my wife’s bill and she had an “account” that was supposed to pay it. You argue with the insurance company for months and in the mean time your credit is damaged. I’ve been told by people who work at insurance companies that they automatically refuse to pay a certain percentage of all claims.

If they want health care reform they should reform the billing. If a hospital is willing to accept 40% they should bill 40%. Two men are in the same room having suffered heart attacks. They’re both billed $100,000. One of them has insurance and the hospital accepts $40,000. The other guy does not have insurance and owes $100,000. This should be illegal. Bottom line is if the provider is willing to discount it for the insurance company he should be willing to discount it for me.

I do know that you should never pay cash for a medical procedure. Let them bill you then they’ll negotiate. If you pay up front they want it all.


90 posted on 07/02/2011 8:34:21 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Don W

I think he’s 17 now. Not that it makes any difference.


91 posted on 07/02/2011 8:36:59 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: gitmo
I have a question for the FReepers. Is it really true that the Clinton administration had a budget surplus?

Only after the GOP took over Congress. Congress writes the budget.

92 posted on 07/02/2011 8:39:17 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WOW ... what a piece of garbage that was. What planet is this kid from? could he get it any more wrong if he tried?

I almost thought it was satire it was so far off base.
I went to the website to make some very serious comments, but of course there is no place to comment on this there.

All i can say is take whatever he said turn it 180 degrees and your much closer to the truth of the situation than what he is saying.


93 posted on 07/02/2011 8:41:54 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

His e-mail is there.


94 posted on 07/02/2011 8:47:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: Mad Dawgg

>Apparently the author is one of the lucky Canadians that aren’t on a waiting list to see a family Doctor.

I can see my family doctor usually within three hours of calling him.<

I can be in his office in 15 minutes with any member of my family. We get amazingly fast treatment. Of course now things are starting to change and he is considering leaving practice .. thanks Obama!


95 posted on 07/02/2011 8:49:49 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: olezip

>The article is mostly drivel. But it makes a good point on cost of health care in this country. My cousin fainted. The ambulance came, and took him to the hospital even though he said he was fine. He was fine. But the bills for the overnight stay and related amount to $13,000 so far. He is a disabled Vietnam veteran with no job, no health insurance, and very little money. They will take what little he has.,

that is too bad. But the VA should help. That is what they are there for and if they were run properly they would help.
A medical card for disabled vets should be available for emergency situations when they can not be seen at the VA.

On another note, My daughter had a car accident. Was transported to the hospital via ambulance. She was x-rayed and given a few aspirin then released.

Insurance picked up all of it with the exception of a $35.00 co-pay. But what upset me was that NYS collected 10% on every service and every procedure from the ride to the aspirin! 10% for doing NOTHING.

Is it any wonder that the insurance companies charge so much?


96 posted on 07/02/2011 8:55:04 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I saw that, I also saw he has an unattended blog, and a web site where he sells his books with a canada e-mail address.

But I wanted to discredit the article, not just flame him. I wanted to offer counterpoints to readers to set the record straight.

I think that our job now is to make these people accountable with facts so that readers aren’t just taking it as some kind of well researched gospel. Know what I mean?


97 posted on 07/02/2011 8:58:19 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: miss marmelstein

>Hmmm...Canadian dentistry doesn’t look too good.<

I have a friend who lives on Prince Edward Island. Quite a few health problems including diabetes. he got an insulin pump .. he had to pay several hundred dollars for it. He pays for much of his medication that I would have though covered.
he had a problem with gout that left him unable to work. he was waiting 3 weeks to see a doctor.

Whereas I had MAJOR surgery that was in hundreds of thousands of dollars when it was all done. I never waited a day for treatment other than for my body to be ready for it and I never was billed a dime.

I had a friend in the UK who had a serious heart condition. I say HAD because he died during his 4 month wait for his heart procedure.

I’ll take our system over theirs any day thanks


98 posted on 07/02/2011 9:06:34 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: gitmo

>I have a question for the FReepers. Is it really true that the Clinton administration had a budget surplus?<

http://www.craigsteiner.us/comments/147


99 posted on 07/02/2011 9:10:45 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I did send a letter to the editor:

“RE: Americans are mad as hell by JACK TODD.
I honestly thought this was satire it is so far off base. I can see why there was no place for comments on the article, it could be ripped to shreds line by line.
Perhaps it would be better to print fact based articles rather than the delusional opinions of American Service deserters who obviously have no love or respect for the USA.
I was VERY dissappointed that your publication would allow such an erroneous piece of drivel be published.
Is there no fact checking involved anymore or is this just a test to see how much propaganda one person can handle before they write a letter to the editor? “

How did i do?


100 posted on 07/02/2011 9:20:42 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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