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To: muawiyah

“No one is trying to take any liberties away from bikers ~ just keeping the mess down when they kill themselves.”

Again, you failed to grasp the original argument and chose way too detailed scatological arguments. Weird.

The argument posited is that public bureaucracies create a false need which then requires liberties to be limited in order for that false need to be fulfilled for the good of society.

It’s big picture stuff. It’s not about motorcycles, though in this case is manifested in helmet laws.

Stop playing with yourself and pay attention.


165 posted on 07/03/2011 1:59:26 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

You cannot claim the right to liberty, without taking responsibility for the risks you want to undertake, and then have society assume responsibility for you, if it doesn’t turn out well for you.

That is a child’s viewpoint, to demand the right to pet the dog, but expect mommy to protect them when the dog snaps.

If you want to have the right to do what you want, you had better have the means to cover your sorry arse, because if you don’t thay means society is going to have to back you up and that means society has the right to demand you adhere to certain practices.


167 posted on 07/03/2011 2:14:04 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: RFEngineer
You're the guy who brought up poop.

Your attempt to blame others for that is definitely shameful. It's one of those things you really shouldn't ask for in a thread like this.

No, the bureaucracies reaching and grasping story doesn't work here ~ these are public roads.

If they were private roads it'd be a different matter.

169 posted on 07/03/2011 2:29:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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