Posted on 07/07/2011 6:07:34 AM PDT by tutstar
A small town in Arizona is suddenly a YouTube sensation after a town-hall meeting devolved into a physical clash as a woman was forcibly removed from speaking during the public portion of the event.
Jennifer "Jade" Jones, 45, of Quartzsite, Ariz., was taken into custody by local police at the behest of Quartzsite councilmembers, over the objections of the mayor, who pleaded with officers not to remove the woman.
Read more: 'Nazi' police 'kidnap' woman at town hall http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=319501#ixzz1RQYThE6K
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The thing is, we have no information. I agree with you on that.
I don’t automatically assume a good shoot. You know as well as me that that you put together a group of people as big as the number of cops in the United States it is a crap shoot.
Good cops, bad cops, brave cops, fat cops, honest cops corrupt cops. Many cops have been all of these things in the course of a 20 year career.
I will not assume the side of the State. The State has far to much power and cops have too much personal immunity from criminal prosecution. Cops have again and again been trigger happy. They are trigger happy because they are shielded from criminal prosecution. So no, I will not automatically take the side of the State. That does not mean I support the right of bipolar alcoholics to gun down cops or anybody else. How come de-escalation is not a priority? Instead cops seem to wheel up, jump out, scream conflicting commands and open fire! But that’s because I am a small government conservative. (This is not our first tangle on this issue and won’t be our last).
Let me (attempt to) leave it at this: police today have an image problem, deserved or not, and it is getting worse fast. As I said earlier, I might not have been making these posts a short time ago but things have happened lately, things to which I am privy with first hand knowledge, which have brought this fact home to me in spades.
Police need to fix it themselves. I can’t do it for them.
No hard feelings, I hope.
Same goes here. I always try hard to make it a point to have no hard feelings over discussions on FR and other places but there are some occasional exceptions when dealing with leftward Dimocrat wingnuts on some forums DU. Have a good day. Now I need to go get some work done.
Sorry, but your legal description is wrong. See Model Codes for guidance.
Look at many of these police shootings and you will see nothing happen to the police. Every once in a while one will be fired but otherwise they get away scot free, no personel responsibilty, the taxpayers pay.
That's called kidnapping among other crimes.
It may be appropriate, it may be accurate. But it's used so often that on one listens to it anymore. Any legitimate comparisons are drowned out by the constant overuse of the term.
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Illegals are allowed to roam, murder, drunk-drive, maim, home invade, etc. here in Arizona, but the jackbooted union thugs did a no-knock raid on a house and murdered Jose Guerena, Marine veteran. And probably would have murdered his wife but she was on the phone with the incompetent buffoons at 911.
I think that depends on where you live and varies from state, city, even county. I know most of the LEO officers in my town and I can assure you, they do not like that thing in the WH.... at ALL!! They would never be on his side.
Planned? Oh please, that is ludicrous. Watch the video again.
A couple of months ago, La Raza students were allowed to chain themselves to Tucson Unified School District desks, chanting like savages, egged on by Marxist adults, halting the entire meeting. There were zero arrests or even warnings.
We’re in some sort of depraved, tipsy-turvy country now, innocent people are stripped of all 4th Amendment rights, but the guilty party on.
Agree!
I did not mean that the arrest was planned, but the comments made by the woman were used by the Mayor to expose something that the rest of the council did not want exposed.
Now the question is how did the citizen get access to the video. I suspect it came from the Mayor. I am not sure however if the video is subject to the open meetings requirements there.
There is more to this than what was in the video.
The man was carving a small wood carving knife while he crossed a street in front of a police car. The officer jumped from the car shouted ‘ drop the knife ‘ a few times and seconds later simply shot the man to death.
At no time did the wood carver turn to face the officer, he did not threaten the officer either. That is the finding of the Seattle police investigation and the testimony of the witnesses.
The police gave the mother of the victim over 1 million dollars and the cop resigned.
You watch this dash cam footage and tell me what happened. You'll be shocked.
Now the question is how did the citizen get access to the video
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From the quality of the video, I suspect it was from a phone or Flip. Why would you suspect the mayor did it and not another citizen and what difference does it make. The video speaks for itself.
The difference is that the Mayor supported her and the council opposed her so strongly to react illegally.
The accusation has been made, with no reference to source, that this is about auditing the payroll records of the city. And that this involves the councilmen being paid for “other services” out of city funds. If that is true, it would partially explain the reaction of the councilmen, and the support of the Mayor.
She was just in the middle of the dispute.
“Can we stop with all the Nazi references?” Agreed.
In this case, “Combat booted Thugs-N-Uniform” would be more accurate.
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