[Justice]

This is his starting point? After the way the Democrats have run up spending, it should be $2 trillion in TWO years!

And you honestly think that would have a prayer of a chance when this deal is so precarious?

This plan to keep from spending more (as Obama's budget called for) and actually reduce is a start. Then keep up the pressure incrementally with the Ryan plan, etc. You won't get much more with a Dem Senate and WH. Then vote a GOP Senate and Pres in. That's when we have more of a chance to do the 2 year thing.

[Carry_Okie]

And you honestly think that would have a prayer of a chance when this deal is so precarious?

The Democrats know, as we should, that you don't start out by meeting your enemy at the point of reasonableness. By taking an honest position re the deficit, the sheer magnitude of Slave Party profligacy becomes the point of public discussion.

This plan to keep from spending more (as Obama's budget called for) and actually reduce is a start.

A minuscule reduction after 35% growth in two years is no reduction at all.

You won't get much more with a Dem Senate and WH.

We'd get more with this approach than yours.

Then vote a GOP Senate and Pres in. That's when we have more of a chance to do the 2 year thing.

With a $16 billion dollar hole to fill.