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McConnell proposes giving Obama debt ceiling power
MSNBC ^ | 7/12/2011 | msnbc

Posted on 07/12/2011 3:05:57 PM PDT by tobyhill

The top Republican in the Senate proposed on Tuesday giving President Barack Obama sweeping new power to, in effect, unilaterally increase the nation's debt limit to avoid a first-ever default on U.S. obligations.

The new mechanism would take the place of the current White House debt negotiations among congressional leaders and Obama. Those talks over spending cuts and tax increases have grown increasingly acrimonious.

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., offered a new plan to allow the president to demand up to $2.4 trillion in new borrowing authority by the summer of next year in three separate submissions.

Those increases in the so-called debt limit would automatically take effect unless both the Republican-controlled House and the Democratic Senate enact legislation specifically disapproving it.

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To: Longbow1969
McConnell whole point of this proposal is to get Obama to put his cuts in writing so when the time for the dims comes to demagogue and demonize the GOP for cutting entitlements the GOP can say "these are your cuts Mr. President"

That's why obama will never sign off on it

81 posted on 07/12/2011 5:07:33 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: boomop1
Obozo will not go for it, he wants a no strings attatched deal with tax increases.

If I understand it .. Obama will have to state what cuts in spending he will make (To equal the ceiling debt raise) but .. Here's the kicker: He can then veto those cuts later!?

82 posted on 07/12/2011 5:09:14 PM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
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To: Popman

But he will be given the Option to veto those cuts later!


83 posted on 07/12/2011 5:10:59 PM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
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To: hobbes1

Perhaps on its face.

But note that the unilateral Zero increase would have to come with equivalent cuts, which Congress can reject with a “resolution of disapproval”, which Zero can then veto!

So if he vetoes the “disapproval” he gets the increase!!! And there is nothing that says the equivalent spending cuts must be immediate. He can raise the limit to fund his pet socialist causes and push off the spending cuts to 2050 if he wants. Where’s the “win” in that?

Do you really think the complicit media and sheeple will place any of the blame for the resulting economic disaster where it belongs? Of course not, the Republicans will be blamed for letting Zero play the happy socialist Pied Piper with all OUR money.


84 posted on 07/12/2011 5:14:33 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: hobbes1
Wait a minute, earlier today he was saying Obama was the problem that wouldn't be solved while he's in office, now this?

The problem here is no one on this site, can read or think for themselves anymore.

Y'all sound like the yahoos SanFran Nan paints you to be.

McConnell proposes to make that loying prick in the White House, PUT IT IN WRITING. Taking away his political BS.

Right now, BarryO is positioning himself for max political gain, and zero downside.

Mitch's move kills that.

Before you go insulting everyone and looking like an A$$ .. perhaps YOU need to look at the entire 'sell-out'!?

There is also an option in there that gives Obama the power to VETO the very cuts that he proposes later!

85 posted on 07/12/2011 5:15:37 PM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
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To: Popman
McConnell whole point of this proposal is to get Obama to put his cuts in writing so when the time for the dims comes to demagogue and demonize the GOP for cutting entitlements the GOP can say "these are your cuts Mr. President"

Yup, that is how it looks to me as well. Seems like a good strategy.

86 posted on 07/12/2011 5:24:30 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: freejohn
I guess if it looks like a gimmick it is one, and if we fail here we might as well turn out the lights, it's over.
87 posted on 07/12/2011 5:33:44 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: hobbes1

What you are saying makes no frickin’ sense at all. There can be no upside to giving the traitor in the WH unlimited power in regards to the debt ceiling.


88 posted on 07/12/2011 5:34:36 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Did someone find naked pics of MM or is this BS?

It would be foolish to attempt to blackmail Mitch McConnell with naked pictures of himself because it would be us, the viewing public, who would do anything to keep them from being released.

89 posted on 07/12/2011 5:35:33 PM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: Popman
The Republican plan would require that Obama submit spending cuts along with his borrowing requests.

BFD. A "cut" could be anything... like a 10% "cut" in his proposed 500% increase in ACORN funding.

90 posted on 07/12/2011 5:42:15 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: freejohn

He will be veto his own cuts then because he has to submit them in writing

He will never sign off on this for that reason and McConnell knows it


91 posted on 07/12/2011 5:42:34 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: tobyhill

Most of you guys haven’t thought this through and have this one wrong. If the Republicans do a real long term deal with Obama with significant cuts, Obama is suddenly the President who is the deficit hawk and is easily reelected.

Far better off to do what McConnell suggests and have the long term debt bomb hanging over Obama’s head going into the election. He has no plan, so every Republican can run on a long term fix of the out of control spending. And Obama will again have to ask for a debt limit increase two more times.


92 posted on 07/12/2011 6:21:45 PM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: tobyhill

Most of you guys haven’t thought this through and have this one wrong. If the Republicans do a real long term deal with Obama with significant cuts, Obama is suddenly the President who is the deficit hawk and is easily reelected.

Far better off to do what McConnell suggests and have the long term debt bomb hanging over Obama’s head going into the election. He has no plan, so every Republican can run on a long term fix of the out of control spending. And Obama will again have to ask for a debt limit increase two more times.


93 posted on 07/12/2011 6:21:58 PM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: Oldhunk
I'm more inclined for the House to pass the increase with equal cuts then let the Senate Rats and Obama do what they want.
94 posted on 07/12/2011 6:37:46 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: calex59

unlimited? Did you read that?

I read, put the request in writing...?


95 posted on 07/12/2011 7:04:52 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to...." ;)
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To: freejohn

You’re assuming he’ll put it in writing.

If the does. Rick Perry will be President in 2012. (By an even larger margin)

It’s not Adv. Calculus. it’s 2 and 2.


96 posted on 07/12/2011 7:07:10 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to...." ;)
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To: Popman

THANK YOU. Someone actually gets it.

The rest of the friggin cannibals, are far too happy to eat their own, to see past the dang dinner bell.


97 posted on 07/12/2011 7:08:16 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to...." ;)
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To: Oldhunk
Most of you guys haven’t thought this through and have this one wrong. If the Republicans do a real long term deal with Obama with significant cuts, Obama is suddenly the President who is the deficit hawk and is easily reelected.

Thank you for restoring my faith in our side. Exactly right.

And he's been trying to get there without specifics, for maximum blame, and minimum responsibility.

98 posted on 07/12/2011 7:10:10 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to...." ;)
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To: tobyhill

McConnell is pure shit and needs to be run out of office!


99 posted on 07/12/2011 7:13:21 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: cinciella

Ganz.


100 posted on 07/12/2011 7:14:55 PM PDT by riri
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