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Bipartisan tax plan trims mortgage deduction (Thanks but No Thanks, 'Gang of Six' !)
Yahoo ^ | 7/20/11 | Stephen Ohlemacher - ap

Posted on 07/20/2011 4:19:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (AP) — A new bipartisan plan to reduce government borrowing would target some of the most cherished tax breaks enjoyed by millions of families — those promoting health insurance, home ownership, charitable giving and retirement savings — in exchange for lowering overall tax rates for everyone.

Many taxpayers would face higher taxes — a total of at least $1.2 trillion over the next decade, and perhaps more.

The details and impact of the plan, released this week by the bipartisan "Gang of Six" senators, emerged as President Barack Obama called congressional leaders to the White House on Wednesday to determine, in separate meetings, their bottom line for extending the nation's debt limit while also cutting spending at the greatest amount possible. The role of additional tax revenue remained a sticking point.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bipartisan; gangof6; gangofsix; mortgagededuction; tax; trims
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Yep, they should not agree to any tax code changes in this debt ceiling deal, force Democrats to bring it up in a separate bill.


41 posted on 07/20/2011 5:43:05 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: NormsRevenge

I support getting rid of ALL subsidies regardless of who benefits from it. Mortgage deduction is a subsidy period!!!


42 posted on 07/20/2011 5:46:27 PM PDT by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: NormsRevenge

If someone wants to flatten the tax structure and eliminate whatever deductions that is fine by me as long as the whole thing is revenue neutral. If it is not revenue neutral then it’s a play to steal more money and should be rejected. If it’s revenue neutral then we can deal with it later and not now.


43 posted on 07/20/2011 5:46:37 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

This is all about stealing your equity from your home. Screw this.

I’m sick of these pieces of trash in govt all of them.


44 posted on 07/20/2011 5:52:57 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: Notary Sojac
Let's talk about two hypothetical taxpayers, John and Jack.

Lets talk about two families. One with sufficient tax deductions to itemize, and one that doesn’t.

45 posted on 07/20/2011 6:02:26 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will vote for Sarah Palin, even if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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To: newzjunkey
The mortgage interest deduction came in with the income tax around 1913

All interest paid used to be deductible no matter what it was charged for.

46 posted on 07/20/2011 6:07:54 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will vote for Sarah Palin, even if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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To: LibsRJerks

We have written out rather large checks to the IRS for years. And you are right, if more people had to do it this crap would stop.


47 posted on 07/20/2011 6:07:54 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Qbert

Just more redistribution of wealth. The tax code should NOT be used for social engineering.


48 posted on 07/20/2011 6:14:49 PM PDT by sheana
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To: rabscuttle385

So not taxing something is a subsidy? Kinda’ makes the word subsidy lose all meaning.


49 posted on 07/20/2011 6:18:50 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: gleeaikin

Good catch, you saved me the trouble.


50 posted on 07/20/2011 6:21:09 PM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: itsahoot
These mongrels in DC ought to be working on getting rid of the the IRS instead of talking about screwing around with smoke and mirror tax deductions and sticking it to the middle class.

The muslim commie in chief is about to go on yet another multi million dollar vacation at tax payer expense.

These Washingtonians have no idea whats coming.

All it takes is one outsider to gain the WH.

All bets are off, purge the GOP "leadership", jail and harass the communists in Congress, and slap the reds in the press upside the head by targeting their leaders.

That's just for starters

51 posted on 07/20/2011 6:21:55 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Perdogg

There is no moral, logical, ethical, or theological reason for non-home owners to subsidize the homes of others, and I’m a home owner. It is theft, pure and simple.


52 posted on 07/20/2011 6:22:14 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: gleeaikin

Good advice. I can’t help but wonder why anyone wouldn’t know that they could write off the basic items you suggested.

Even Charlie Rangel knows this. Turbo Tax Tim could attest to it as well.


53 posted on 07/20/2011 6:23:05 PM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: LibsRJerks

“However, since we don’t live in it, we can’t deduct the mortgage interest.”

you said you rent it out. so its income property.

the mortgage interest is a expense that is deducted from the gross rental income. it is not taxed. this is on Schedule E.

you need to depreciate the building as well....its not a choice....if its worth 100k, you divide that by 27.5 and you get $3636.00 in depreciation....each year...(form 4562)

that has the effect of lowering the amount of income you have which determines your tax bracket....and taxes due.

this is all great stuff if you are making money somewhere else, like in your dental practice.....


54 posted on 07/20/2011 6:27:40 PM PDT by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: Notary Sojac
"Take away the mortgage deduction and prices will lower to compensate"

...great news for those of us who own real estate. Why not change around the tax rate for dividends and capital gains while you're at it?

55 posted on 07/20/2011 6:29:12 PM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: NormsRevenge

An efficient way to close the loophole relating to properties is to abolish the tax assessor; who’s subjectivity leads to similar houses in the same neighborhood, paying wildly different tax bills.

That tax assessor visit may have made sense during the days of landowners and slaves; seeing how much stuff a person owned was the Gov’s only best way to measure wealth.

I would like to think the US has come a long way since then.

Today just because someone buys a fancy car or inherits a fancy house does not mean they have the means to pay a fancy tax every year.

Measure the money not the property let individuals keep and cherish the pretty things in their life.


56 posted on 07/20/2011 6:38:14 PM PDT by moshiach
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To: Jacquerie; going hot
"Multiple income taxation" should be treated the same way for mortgages as for any other loan.

Mortgage interest should be deductible only if interest paid on a loan for a Corvette, or a new computer, or a vacation is deductible.

57 posted on 07/20/2011 7:28:00 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (I have not heard a single Michele or Cain backer threaten to stay home if Palin is nominated.)
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To: silverleaf
ever think that this tax incentive may actually create a few jobs?

Yeah, it might, but the purpose of the tax code is to raise money for the government, not to favor one industry at the expense of others.

When Jack buys a $200K instead of a $400K house, he (probably) doesn't bury the money he's saving in a Mason jar in the backyard. He's investing and spending it in ways that create -other- jobs.

Read up on "Bastiat's parable of the glazier" if you want to know how this works, and the flaw in your thinking.

Those other jobs should not be penalized in order to subsidize the jobs in homebuilding. Most of which appear to be going to illegals, anyway.

58 posted on 07/20/2011 7:34:51 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (I have not heard a single Michele or Cain backer threaten to stay home if Palin is nominated.)
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To: MSF BU; Monitor
As Monitor correctly observed upthread:

There is no moral, logical, ethical, or theological reason for non-home owners to subsidize the homes of others, and I’m a home owner. It is theft, pure and simple.

59 posted on 07/20/2011 7:36:24 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (I have not heard a single Michele or Cain backer threaten to stay home if Palin is nominated.)
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To: Notary Sojac
They were, until the greedy bastids eliminated them, to increase "revenue" to the national coffers. I have no problem with any interest being non taxable.

Right now you pay taxes on income, then you pay taxes on the interest by not being able to write it off, then the banker pays tax on the interest because it is income to him.

The whole reason they wish to eliminate the mortgage interest deduction is because it is a vast source of more revenue, which they run through like shiite through a goose.

I can see the logical outcome of this, why not eliminate all business related expense, after all, it is just a subsidy.(!)Business should pay tax on the gross, not the net...how does that work out for you.

You want to see all costs of breathing go astronomical overnight, have at it.

60 posted on 07/20/2011 7:41:24 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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