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To: lentulusgracchus

I have to respectfully disagree.

Unless ratified a treaty cannot have any force of law within our borders.
What would a person be arrested for in relation to an unratified treaty?
No new “Law” has been created, congress has not ratified the treaty as required by our constitution, no agency can be tasked with implementing regulations based on the unratified treaty.
Anyone charged would then have “Standing” to force Gov. Org. to justify the charge, likely resulting in the alleged “law” being thrown out.

It is shameful that congress has not addressed these treaty abuses as is their duty.
Even a ratified treaty may be rescinded, and several need to be.

I am sure you are correct about Klintoon, his contempt for our constitution may have been equal to Obombies.
I would like examples to study, and probably bring up to my representatives.

I am sure you are correct about the intent of “Fast & Furious”, I disagree that the plan would have been legal and that any alleged treaty would take effect immediately.


25 posted on 07/22/2011 4:28:57 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: Loyal Sedition
I suggest you do a little searching on treaty law, its force in the U.S., and consequences of presidential signature of a treaty, when the Senate defers consideration and does not act either to ratify or to reject it.

The topic's been discussed on FR, but since the search engine only looks at thread titles and key words, I'm not sure where to look, or how. I've tried it a few times and been not too satisfied with the results, or that I knew what to do.

26 posted on 07/22/2011 5:00:37 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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