[toolman1401]

BS said NO? Let the loser own the crisis. The House has a negotiated deal with Dingy Harry of the Senate. Take the deal or let the chips fall where they may. The Social Security, military, and other obligations will be paid first. Then BS can start cutting welfare programs and entitlements until the cows come home. When the people figure out that they can do without a lot of the government, things are starting to take a turn in the right direction.

[silverleaf]

One analyst on FOX business indicated if there is no debt ceiling increase, the govt will have to live on what it had .... in 2006

Gee does not sound like armageddon, does it?
I don’t remember people starving in the streets in 2006
And the unemployment rate in 2006 was what, about 5%?

[Principled]

Go ahead and pass it in both houses. Let him veto it.

[GlockThe Vote]

Exactly. Time for Boehner to agree tot he deal, declare Victory and hand it off to obama.

Reid and Pelosi get what they want in not tying this mess to SS or other stuff, Boehner gets no tax increases, etc.

So long as Typhoid Barry is in office we have to be realistic with stuff.

Let Typhoid Barry own this mess now.

[Cheerio]

When the people figure out that they can do without a lot of the government, things are starting to take a turn in the right direction.

This is the RATS worst nightmare scenario - Government union workers being laid off, and citizens realizing they can do without their "public service".