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Boehner Proposal: Balanced-budget Amendment, Raise Debt Ceiling By $1T, Save $1.2T Over Next Decade
Politicons- Politically Conservative ^ | July 25 | Henry D'Andrea

Posted on 07/25/2011 12:46:29 PM PDT by conservativeforpalin

Speaker John Boehner’s proposal includes a balanced-budget amendment and a raise in the debt ceiling by $1 trillion. The proposed plan would save $1.2 trillion over the next decade.

Fox News reported:

The approach was received from a senior GOP leadership aide and reads as follows:

Two-Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable

Republicans insisted if the President wants his debt ceiling increase, the American people will require serious spending cuts and reforms. This two-step approach meets House Republicans’ criteria by (1) making spending cuts that are larger than any debt ceiling increase; (2) implementing spending caps to restrain future spending; and (3) advancing the cause of the Balanced Budget Amendment – without tax hikes on families and job creators. While this is not the House-passed “Cut, Cap, & Balance,” it is a package that reflects the principles of Cut, Cap, & Balance. Here is more information on the plan:

–Cuts That Exceed The Debt Hike. The framework would cut and cap discretionary spending immediately, saving $1.2 trillion over 10 years (subject to CBO confirmation), and raise the debt ceiling by less – up to $1 trillion.

–Caps To Control Future Spending. The framework imposes spending caps that would establish clear limits on future spending and serve as a barrier against government expansion while the economy grows. Failure to remain below these caps will trigger automatic across-the-board cuts (otherwise known as sequestration).

–Balanced Budget Amendment. The framework advances the cause of the Balanced Budget Amendment by requiring the House and Senate to vote on the measure after October 1, 2011 but before the end of the year, allowing the American people time to build sufficient support for this popular reform.

–Entitlement Reforms & Savings. The framework creates a Joint Committee of Congress that is required to report legislation that would produce a proposal to reduce the deficit by at least $1.8 trillion over 10 years. Each Chamber would consider the proposal of the Joint Committee on an up-or-down basis without any amendments. If the proposal is enacted, then the President would be authorized to request a debt limit increase of $1.6 trillion.

–No Tax Hikes. The framework included no tax hikes, a key principle that Republicans have been fighting for since day one.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; boehnerplan; debacle; debt; default; economy; planners; police; spending; teachers
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To: Red Badger
When you’re $14.6 Trillion in the hole, $1.2 Trillion over 10 years isn’t gonna get you out of the hole...................

Especially when they will spend the debt ceiling increase in 12 to 18 months and the phantom cuts will be spread out over 10 years. We're going backwards.

21 posted on 07/25/2011 12:55:01 PM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: tennmountainman
IT DOES NOTHING except punt.

Given the current situation (i.e., the Democrats still controlling the Senate and the White House), a punt might be the only feasible option anyway.

22 posted on 07/25/2011 12:55:17 PM PDT by kevkrom (Imagine if the media spent 1/10 the effort vetting Obama as they've used against Palin.)
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To: conservativeforpalin
Bullshit, Boener !

A ten year point 2 billion 'savings' that kinetically will tank us in 2-4 years ?

Bullshit ... NO debt criling increase, period.

What part of, "We're broke because of the devil you're negotiating with" don't you get?

23 posted on 07/25/2011 12:55:46 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: milwguy

Obama did offer one “budget saver” back when.

He offered to raise Medicare eligibility from 65 to 67.... by 2036.

There won’t be an America by 2036!


24 posted on 07/25/2011 12:57:35 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: kevkrom

Don’t try to bring sanity to this argument!


25 posted on 07/25/2011 12:58:21 PM PDT by RockinRight (If we're "teabaggers" then they're "d-baggers.")
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To: conservativeforpalin

Wow...this thread’s got the DU spirit.


26 posted on 07/25/2011 12:58:44 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: conservativeforpalin

Sounds similar to CC&B to me, I don’t get the bellyaching here.


27 posted on 07/25/2011 1:00:03 PM PDT by RockinRight (If we're "teabaggers" then they're "d-baggers.")
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To: conservativeforpalin
What is it that everything has to project over ten years?
What we need is $1.2 Trillion in cuts for the next two years, and even that really is not enough.
The Reckoning is coming and when it does there is going to be a passel of finger pointing.
Well all these idiots have to do is look in the mirror and they will have found the guilty parties.
28 posted on 07/25/2011 1:00:25 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: GeronL

The US Government is in debt 15 trillion, the US itself 9 trillion, Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac 6 trillion, local and state government, personal debt, banks mortgages and credit card; etc. etc and etc add up to about 52 trillion debt.

Compound interest is threatening to swamp the whole system. People never think about the interest.

These people should be in prison.


29 posted on 07/25/2011 1:03:34 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: GeronL

This may be the only thing he can do at this point to keep obutthead from using this issue to get re-elected. The longer it drags out, the more the left can use it to pound conservatives. If we can keep the house and gain the senate in 2012 we can fix the cutting part if we hold the congress’ feet to the fire.


30 posted on 07/25/2011 1:03:41 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Red Badger

If nothing else, the ass hat does not get to shuck and jive his way on this through the next election. I want this deficit wrapped around his neck like a boaconstrictor.


31 posted on 07/25/2011 1:06:12 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Red Badger

Once again, the GOP caves. Didly sqat over 10 yrs.


32 posted on 07/25/2011 1:07:09 PM PDT by KwHorn77 (Tired of the GOP being the minority party!)
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To: conservativeforpalin

Let’s make it easy for them.

Go here and open Rand Pauls 5 Year Budget plan: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=41227

It’s fully of specific quantified cuts in federal programs across the board. Pick some, and don’t stop until they total at least $3 trillion.

Then get on the boob tube and announced that you have a plan to CUT SPENDING BY $3T and here it is. Name names.

When the SHTF, say OK, you have a better plan, let’s hear it - but remember the total has to come to $3T. Stand back and watch the fun.

Does this sound like a Daddy telling the little darlings at home they have to do without either the movie channels, the NetFlix, the video games, the vacation, the new phone, etc? Well that’s how you deal with people who have the maturity level of children.

Fun’s over kids. Time to pay the bills.


33 posted on 07/25/2011 1:07:57 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: GeronL
To make these fantasy reforms work in reality, what is needed is general Tax Reduction, not just for special political buddies, and not the old keep the rate but increase the basis Abbott and Costello accounting, but Real incentive for investors and businesses to create new Real jobs, not monopoly money transfer payments.
It is possible to make America the preferred place to do business. But entrenched special interests like things the way they are.
Based on the Reagan data, America could be financially sound and solvent in 5 years, perhaps less.
Keeping on not drowning is not an answer.

TWB

34 posted on 07/25/2011 1:08:08 PM PDT by TWhiteBear (Jobs, Peace, Food, Security .... Down with Obama(Peacefully))
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To: WVNan

He proposes a balanced budget amendment but is unwilling to propose a balanced budget??

gutless

“Somebody stop me, please!”


35 posted on 07/25/2011 1:08:40 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Red Badger
"$1.2 Trillion over 10 years isn’t gonna get you out of the hole..................."

Especially when the deficit this year is around $1.5 trillion. That's another $15 trillion over the next 10 years, if it were to stay about same each year. Which it obviously won't.

In a morally bankrupt country, politicians are liars, and their favored, controlling constituent groups are the dirtiest of thieving, bipartisan rats. And remember, you all, that there are more levels in government than the federal. Look at your nearby socialist elite.


36 posted on 07/25/2011 1:10:56 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a noisy avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the earth.)
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To: Red Badger
When you’re $14.6 Trillion in the hole, $1.2 Trillion over 10 years isn’t gonna get you out of the hole...

Amen RB. Amen.

Reducing spending by 120 B annually will still be a Trillion and change added to the deficit each year. So at the end of the ten years, the deficit will be 25 Trillion+. What am I missing?

And I have yet to see any plan indicate money to pay down debt. Wouldn't you expect that?

37 posted on 07/25/2011 1:15:04 PM PDT by Principled
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To: TWhiteBear

EVen Harry Reid/Obama’s proposal have bigger faux cuts than this one from Beohner


38 posted on 07/25/2011 1:17:18 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: conservativeforpalin

the markets are expecting about $4 tril. in cuts and a lot sooner than ten years. Otherwise our rating is gonna get lowered anyhow.


39 posted on 07/25/2011 1:17:24 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: kevkrom

This plan will pick up a lot of RAT and RINO votes in the house.
Money upfront, with only promised spending cuts.

Bonehead won’t need the votes of conservatives.
If this is what is to be, I’d let the RINO’s and RATS carry the water on this trickery and expose them for the coming elections.

If this is the way Bonehead passes it, I can guarantee there will primary challenges and many moderates on both sides will be looking for work after 2012.

Bonehead had better enjoy all the sham deals he can pass now.
He will be gone soon enough.


40 posted on 07/25/2011 1:17:24 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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