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Live Thread: Obama responds to GOP plan (9pm ET/6pm PT)
AP/Hannity ^ | July 25, 2011

Posted on 07/25/2011 1:53:10 PM PDT by newzjunkey

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To: newzjunkey

The Dollar is dropping since The WON spoke.


781 posted on 07/25/2011 8:48:16 PM PDT by navydad
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To: navydad

Peter Barnes (FBN) on Greta saying Asian markets are up right now because they believe US will not default oe have a downgrade.


782 posted on 07/25/2011 8:54:05 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm

Lookin’ like even Coburn is backing Boehner on this. Well now.


783 posted on 07/25/2011 9:00:09 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

No.

vice president is first in line.
then boner of the House


784 posted on 07/25/2011 9:02:25 PM PDT by 50gunsalute
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To: MestaMachine

The strategy is not a secret: the debt ceiling is extended by 1T and a panel is set up to deign the 1.7T cuts the pResident agrees to. If barry and the bastard democrats do not follow through with the cuts, it is exposed and they lose bigtime in 2012, White Hut, Senate seats, more House seats. If the democrats do work together for the cvuts to go into effect as agreed, the nation benefits and starting in 2013 WE THE PEOPLE hold the pubbies widdle feet to the cut, cap, and balance work our Republic must have in order to survive.


785 posted on 07/25/2011 9:05:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

The star lives about 35 miles from me near Franklin, TN. He opened a big store in west Nashville.

Yeah, I don’t get the tats. And they do act gay! lol

My wife told me he’s married and has like 400 kids or something! ;-)


786 posted on 07/25/2011 9:05:30 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm done with political parties. The GOP is useless. Anarchy is perferable to this CRAP!)
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And just so every one is clear, the number of weords I took to describe the strategy is far more than barry bassturd’s constituency can follow and comprehend. The sheeple of o’barry have very picked fleece


787 posted on 07/25/2011 9:06:51 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Um, not exactly.

That “Trust” fund is filled with IOUs called treasury securities. When SS payments exceed SS taxes (as they are doing now), the “Trust” fund has to redeem an IOU. When it presents the Treasury with a security to be redeemed, the Treasury must pay it. That payment comes out of the General Fund, which is why Obama said there may not be enough money to mail out checks.

Where did the $2Trillion go? When SS taxes come in, the “Trust” fund either pays current recipients, or buys Treasury securities with the excess funds collected. The Fund gets the IOU in return for giving the Treasury the cash. What does the Treasury do with the cash? It spends it, on “stimulus”, high-speed trains to nowhere, etc.

At least that is how I understand it - YMMV


788 posted on 07/25/2011 9:08:15 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: triumphant values

True...I knew he’d be spouting all the same o talking points....he’ll never be out of campaign mode, that’s all he knows and it isn’t working as Pres. he’s worse than over his head. Besides his lies are catching up with him...he’s having to tell more to cover the ones he told before.

But Boehner did great tonight, a real statesman and stood firm. Sure am hoping to see more of that....will be interesting to see what plan ol’Reid is humping together at the last hour...


789 posted on 07/25/2011 9:11:31 PM PDT by caww
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To: MHGinTN

Lay down with rats and get up with fleece. Yes?


790 posted on 07/25/2011 9:12:03 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: P-Marlowe

To continue -

The big news about Obama’s scaring the seniors is that it is an explicit confirmation that the “Trust” fund has always been a LIE. Now, as boomers retire, the SS will consume larger and larger parts of the government budget, and/or drive increased deficit spending.

Sorry to pee on your parade, but that’s the way it is.


791 posted on 07/25/2011 9:13:03 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: SueRae
Watching Cavuto (I love him :-)) He said...’you can watch it here..and simultanw=eously catch the overseas market reaction..to see if they’re buying what he’s saying.’

Haha, Cavuto's great.

792 posted on 07/25/2011 9:13:48 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Lazlo in PA

BTW, I know a farm in Cohutta Georgia where the pickers could spend a week and be in picker heaven! ... I enjoy that show, for some odd reason.


793 posted on 07/25/2011 9:14:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MestaMachine

It does; listening now. Missed her interview with DeMint in the previous hour. Set to record again.

Also, good for West; that was an interesting article you linked.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2753863/posts


794 posted on 07/25/2011 9:15:02 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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MSNBC’s Martin Bashir Slams ‘Right-Wing Nutters’ as ‘Biggest Threat’ to Global Financial System
By Alex Fitzsimmons | July 25, 2011 | 17:09

Quoting a British politician who claimed “right-wing nutters” pose the most serious threat to the international financial system, MSNBC’s Martin Bashir asked his conservative guest on Monday: “He’s right, isn’t he?”

http://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/alex-fitzsimmons/2011/07/25/msnbcs-martin-bashir-slams-right-wing-nutters-biggest-threat-globa

Ex-Newsweek Editor Howard Fineman Slams: Tea Partiers Are Creating a ‘Slow Motion Secession’
By: Scott Whitlock | July 25, 2011 | 17:59

Former Newsweek editor Howard Fineman on Monday berated Tea Partiers for engineering a “slow motion succession” in relation to the budget impasse in Congress.


795 posted on 07/25/2011 9:15:08 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Parley Baer
That is what Boehner is doing by cutting out the press. He is talking straight to the people he knows will put out the correct story with no BS involved.

Yep for sure! And Obama is scared crapless about that. Look how Palin eliminated them and yet she still got traction. I think the radio hosts could carry any important issue as this when the democrates are up to no good. And God bless Rush for putting Boehner on!

796 posted on 07/25/2011 9:15:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: MestaMachine

Brilliant!


797 posted on 07/25/2011 9:15:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: newzjunkey

After several challenges with server response, I finally got through to my state senators — had to settle on using e-mail.


798 posted on 07/25/2011 9:15:36 PM PDT by GizzyGirl
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To: GizzyGirl

CNN’s John Avlon Blasts Tea Party Congressmen for ‘Demagoguing’ the Debt
By: Matt Hadro | July 25, 2011 | 16:56

Once again, Tea Party-critic John Avlon took aim at “hyper-partisanship” in Congress but focused the blame squarely on House Republicans while saving a tiny bit of blame for Democrats. In a July 25 op-ed for CNN.com, he hit Republicans for walking away from a generous deal by President Obama to settle the debt ceiling debate.

http://m.newsbusters.org/


799 posted on 07/25/2011 9:17:29 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: bt_dooftlook; Sarah Barracuda; xzins
That “Trust” fund is filled with IOUs called treasury securities. When SS payments exceed SS taxes (as they are doing now), the “Trust” fund has to redeem an IOU. When it presents the Treasury with a security to be redeemed, the Treasury must pay it. That payment comes out of the General Fund, which is why Obama said there may not be enough money to mail out checks.

But the swap does not incur any new debt, so the money is there to pay it. The money in the trust fund is money that was already borrowed and is included in the current national debt, so if the treasuries are cashed there is no increase in the debt. The Treasury has 2 trillion dollars of money that it can use to pay social security without increasing the national debt by even one penny.

This is why Obama is a bald faced liar. He knows it. Geithner knows it. Everyone in his administration knows that issuing checks to social security will not increase the debt and therefore the checks must go out. Their threat to old people is a despicable lie.

800 posted on 07/25/2011 9:17:31 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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