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Wealth in America: Whites leave minorities behind
MSNBC ^ | July 26, 2011 | MIke Brunker

Posted on 07/26/2011 1:20:16 PM PDT by LonelyCon

As Congress and the White House wrestle whether to raise taxes for the wealthiest Americans, a new analysis of Census data shows that the wealth gaps between whites and blacks and Hispanics widened dramatically during the recession.

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The declines from the recession left the median black household with $5,677 in wealth (assets minus debts, where assets include items like a car, a home, savings, retirement funds, etc.) and the typical Hispanic household with $6,325. White households, by comparison, had $113,149, the study found.

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To: LonelyCon
The MSM always engineers these articles to induce maximum feelings of envy on the plantation for evil political purposes. An average family with a net worth $113,149 is not worthy of envy. One trip to the hospital could wipe them out. They can't afford to retire. Second, if the payouts from welfare programs were converted into an equivalent one-time lump sum payment, many poor people would be millionaires. Third, many minorities blow their entire paycheck, while many whites sacrifice and save. The whites should not be looted to re-level the playing field. Anyone that wants Cuba's leveled playing field should move there.
41 posted on 07/26/2011 1:47:40 PM PDT by Reeses (Obamacare: do not resuscitate)
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To: LonelyCon

Single white female households with kids makes up most of the numbers.


42 posted on 07/26/2011 1:48:31 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Actually the utter destruction of the black American family began with LBJ and his racist policies.

Nobama is only the latest democratic stooge to continue the policies of breaking down the economic and educational values of blacks.


43 posted on 07/26/2011 1:48:31 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it)
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To: all the best

Excellent comments from all, but no one spoke to the basic flaw in the numbers. In a sense, then, you all fell for the trick. The “study” failed to correct for age. By using that subterfuge the dishonest academic got exactly the result he wanted - and I could have predicted.

You have to see that the white population is much older than the black or Hispanic, the median is also). As an example, how many 22 year olds put a large downpayment on a house compared to the number of 50 year olds who use the proceeds of the sale of their previous residence. Wealth builds over time. Obviously, a 50 year old has had more time to build wealth. College loan obligations subtract from wealth, so even minorities striving to get ahead who are doing all the right things and still have a negative net wealth. I would venture to say that this responsible subgroup among minorities doesn’t reach to the 50th percentile.

The academic and, of course, the media, is trying to conflate income and wealth. Since the economic collapse has also hurt older folks’ income, the lefties can’t rely on old tricks like counting only cash income - and thereby excluding food stamps and housing subsidies to make their standard class warfare argument.


44 posted on 07/26/2011 1:48:34 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Yes, that and other cultural reasons, propensity to save & work are some of them. I would be willing to be that native born Americans of Asian ancestry would have a higher net worth than whites.
45 posted on 07/26/2011 1:49:08 PM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: Little Ray
Equality of Outcome is NOT mandated by any law or morality.

Correct, but you would think that in a society that offers a level playing field, there wouldn't be quite the gap this census data has found. I certainly don't believe any race is inherently superior to any other, so I guess I'd look to cultural, government, institutional or historical reasons for the different outcomes.

I know that there are many other countries with similar inequality among racial groups. Ethnic Japanese tend to be much better off than the minority populations of other Asian groups in Japan. Same thing in China. Don't know much about South America, but I do know that Native Americans and Australian Aboriginal people have had a very tough time keeping up with the societies that surround them.

So again, my original point: I'm sorry for folks who have to suffer in poverty, whatever the reason (like my grandparents certainly did). I hope they can keep their chins up and make a go of it.
46 posted on 07/26/2011 1:49:46 PM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: RickB444

“They have to be willing to get off the couch and get an education, then work...”

For decades. And see to it that your kids get educated. And then replicate the feat in the next generation. Do that for two or three generations and then see.


47 posted on 07/26/2011 1:49:56 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: LonelyCon

The average black IQ in America is only 85... Some 15 points lower than the average for whites.
Black high school graduation rates are below 50% in many communities.

This problem is never going away and it is not whitey’s fault because blacks in Africa fare far worse...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations


48 posted on 07/26/2011 1:50:10 PM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: napscoordinator

Eh, if that were true Americans of Asian ancestry would be around where blacks are. It is the culture overall and attitudes toward work, education, savings, etc. specifically.


49 posted on 07/26/2011 1:50:41 PM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: napscoordinator

Thomas Sowell and Walter E Williams have written about that.
blacks in the late 50’s, had already arrived.
and they had a LOWER rate of out-of-wedlock marriage than whites.
the Civil rights act, destroyed the growing black middle class.
just as the report by Moynihan predicted, in DETAIL.

affirmative action, the EITC, etc., also work, to destroy.


50 posted on 07/26/2011 1:50:55 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: chris_bdba

You raise a good statistical point. I believe there are many more poor white people, numbers wise. I guess “we whites” left a few of our own behind.

As to work ethic, value of education, etc., I bet many people don’t realize these points are rejected by the liberals. Think about it, they do not recognize that people must educate themselves and wor hard to get ahead. They actually get angry at those notions.


51 posted on 07/26/2011 1:51:02 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: LonelyCon

Of course for democrats this is all the more reason to “spread the wealth around.” But, more than that, it shows an appalling lack of prepared resources by minorities for their retirement years. We’ll be forced to subsidize this massive need mightily.


52 posted on 07/26/2011 1:51:27 PM PDT by albie
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To: LonelyCon
“Census data shows that the wealth gaps between whites and blacks and Hispanics widened dramatically during the recession.”

Gee . . . isn't it strange how this seemed to happen when the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress, both Houses of Congress and the Presidency, and one House of Congress and the Presidency — with the greatest acceleration of the trend occurring when the Democrats controlled both Houses and the Presidency.

It's like . . . well . . . Democrats don't like minorities or something. Or may be like the Democrats *do* like minorities — they like minorities dumb and poor and work to keep them that way. How else can you explain the education system today and the economy.

53 posted on 07/26/2011 1:51:42 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: dagogo redux

No, you totally mistook my comment. TOTALLY. I hate the racist whiners always seeing some sort of discrimination and oppression. If I were of the dark persuasion, I would cringe every time somebody pointed out that we just don’t manage to keep up.
Me multicultural? That’s funny. Obviously some cultures are far superior to others.


54 posted on 07/26/2011 1:52:18 PM PDT by all the best
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To: LonelyCon

I suspect that some of the disparity comes from more blacks working for government, and the survey not including the net present value of their anticipated government pensions, meanwhile including private-sector 401Ks.


55 posted on 07/26/2011 1:52:47 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: LonelyCon

The declines from the recession left the median black household with $5,677 in wealth (assets minus debts, where assets include items like a car, a home, savings, retirement funds, etc.) and the typical Hispanic household with $6,325. White households, by comparison, had $113,149, the study found.
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if you compare apples to oranges, you can get any numbers you want.
if you compare the average TWO parent family, in PG county Maryland, with college degrees, the AVERAGE black family, earns MORE than the average white family.

just as if you compare equal hours, risks, benefits, etc., for female workers, the “pay gap” magically disappears,
and again, in MANY equal comparisons, the female earns MORE!


56 posted on 07/26/2011 1:53:49 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: LonelyCon
Wealth in America: Whites leave minorities behind

Wealth in America: Workers leave non-workers behind

Reason for disparity unknown - Academics and government officials puzzled.


57 posted on 07/26/2011 1:54:22 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Blacks over 60 understand the need for hard work and what it took to get what they have. Younger blacks have no appreciation for the struggle that their parents or grandparents went through. They’re accustomed to getting what they want without work. It won’t change. LBJ did his work well.


58 posted on 07/26/2011 1:54:53 PM PDT by albie
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To: goodwithagun
They will never prosper because they are told, and they fully believe, that they are victims. That is truly sorrowful.

I disagree.
I think it's because they are stupid and lazy.

You can't fix stupid.

59 posted on 07/26/2011 1:55:15 PM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: LonelyCon

We have a media that is totally divorced from reality. In the real world, businesses and people are teriffied of minorities, even illegal aliens. Everyone knows they are protected classes and any suggestion they have done wrong is punishable by a charge of racism.

These folks are everywhere taking advantage of free programs, teher is a huge transfer of wealth already going on. That is a simple day to day reality. IF it doesn’t work and they are this poor it’s obvious the current, liberal approach does not work.

I don’t believe this statistic. If the net worth of the average black family is 5,000 bucks after all the affirmative action, set asides, government programs, welfare, and blacks moving into the middle class - they damn well should be embarrassed.


60 posted on 07/26/2011 1:57:18 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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