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Rape disclosure stops debate
The Charlotte Observer ^ | 7/27/2011 | Craig Jarvis, Lynn Bonner

Posted on 07/27/2011 3:11:53 PM PDT by boatbums

RALEIGH By a single vote, the state House on Tuesday overrode the governor's veto of a bill intended to discourage abortions by requiring women to wait 24 hours, receive counseling and be shown an ultrasound before the operation can take place.

Lawmakers on both sides of the issue once again brought impassioned arguments to the floor. But none were as startling as Rep. Ruth Samuelson's debate-ending disclosure that she had once been raped. The Mecklenburg County Republican was responding to some Democrats who argued that the bill would traumatize rape victims and in effect give rapists parental rights.

"Respecting her choice is traumatic and victimizing?" she said. "I'll tell you what's traumatic and victimizing."

Samuelson's remarks came at the conclusion of a lengthy debate, and she immediately moved to vote on the bill. When the override succeeded, pro-life supporters in the gallery broke into applause, and were gaveled to order by Speaker Thom Tillis.

Samuelson couldn't be reached late Tuesday. In May she told the Observer the measure would make sure a rape victim "had the information she needs so she doesn't later feel traumatized because she didn't understand what she was doing."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: abortion; moralabsolutes; prolife; rape
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To: boatbums; Faith
The rapist is who deserves punishment, NOT the innocent child.

Exactly, I often ask people who support abortion in cases of rape if they also think the children of men who commit murder, armed robbery and arson deserve to be executed.

21 posted on 07/27/2011 5:08:51 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Talisker
You need to get some information before you launch into your tirades, bub. Rep. Samuelson is a REPUBLICAN representative in the North Carolina house. She is staunchly Pro-Life and a Christian. Because of her heroic admission, the house voted to OVERTURN the Democrat Governor's veto. We are all hoping the senate follows suit. Are you clear now?
22 posted on 07/27/2011 5:17:01 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Talisker

You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. I would advise you to shut the hell up and stay off of this thread hereafter because you are not just wrong, you’re spewing outright lies!


23 posted on 07/27/2011 5:22:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: The Grammarian
Aw shucks, I should have known the lies were quickly countered. ... {And yet another summer of '08 sign-up is disclosed.}
24 posted on 07/27/2011 5:25:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: wagglebee

A wonderful young woman and family. I will pray for them. I believe that every day she looks into the face of her child, instead of anger or fear, she feels utter joy and gratitude towards God for bringing such a blessing to her life.


25 posted on 07/27/2011 5:30:31 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: MHGinTN

In this case, piling on is a GOOD thing. ;o)


26 posted on 07/27/2011 5:33:38 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: wagglebee

Is that precious baby here yet? May God reward this woman with blessings beyond measure for choosing life for this child. Prayers for all involved.


27 posted on 07/27/2011 6:23:45 PM PDT by Faith
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To: Faith
She's almost six now, she was the flower girl at her mom's wedding.
28 posted on 07/27/2011 6:37:38 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Sorry I didn’t read carefully. What an awesome story. The child will always be a blessing. Thanks for sharing.


29 posted on 07/27/2011 6:43:43 PM PDT by Faith
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30 posted on 07/27/2011 6:56:49 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available 4 FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: boatbums
Thanks for the pro-life ping. Some good news for a change! I pinged the list.
31 posted on 07/27/2011 6:59:41 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available 4 FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Rapists are the scummiest of scum, who ought to be shot, but unborn babies are blameless.

Right, and abortion destroys the limitless human potential which a blameless baby represents.

It is an amazing thing that something so wonderful can come from such a horrible crime.

For instance, I have heard that Beethoven may have been a child of rape.

A baby, with all of its potential, is a wondrous thing, and to callously kill it, before it even has a chance to be born, will always be a crime, in my humble opinion.

32 posted on 07/27/2011 8:31:29 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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bump!


33 posted on 07/28/2011 5:59:38 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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