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Are Jews Too Elitist To Accept Gwyneth Paltrow’s Jew-ish Kids?
Jewish Journal ^ | 7-27-11 | Ilana Angel

Posted on 07/27/2011 4:49:39 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: TaraP

No significance to the numbers, obviously.


41 posted on 07/27/2011 5:57:08 PM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

all those who convert to Judaism according to the strictures of the sect they convert through are Jewish.


42 posted on 07/27/2011 5:57:22 PM PDT by avital2
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To: Poison Pill

If your father is Jewish and your mother is a gentile, des that mean your kids are gentiles?

Gene Simmons from Kiss is a Jew, the mother of his kids is a non-jew, I believe she says (Shannon Tweed) she does not believe in religion, although I don’t think she is an Atheist, so the kids are gentiles???

Does not make much sense IMHO....


43 posted on 07/27/2011 5:58:55 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: Poison Pill

No one is born a Christian, and you cannot be a Christian if your parents are...

You have to make a decision all on your own to believe that Christ is the SON of GOD and died for your sins....

If you do, wether you are born a Jew or Gentile then you can identify as being a *Christian*


44 posted on 07/27/2011 6:02:27 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: SJackson

I agree with you on that!


45 posted on 07/27/2011 6:04:09 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: SJackson

No, just saying that the faith they follow is the faith of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Jacob’s 12 sons. Anyone can follow that faith as did the Samaritans of the time of Jesus (who were looked down upon by the Jews). But to be a Jew, you must be from the line of Judah. Others are followers of the Jewish faith.

Just like I could move to China and learn the language and culture but I would never be Chinese.


46 posted on 07/27/2011 6:06:30 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Poison Pill

What would you consider a child born to a Jewish mother and father, but when the child was born the parents had converted to the Christian faith? Is the child born a Jew or a gentile? because you cannot be born a Christian no one can..That is why they call becoming a Christian *Born Again*

Not of the flesh but of the spirit....


47 posted on 07/27/2011 6:08:31 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: SJackson
...so if she can make it cool to be Jewish, I say rock on sister. Jews are cool baby.

Is this the Jewish religion she's talking about, or is it some twitter twang I'm not in on?

48 posted on 07/27/2011 6:08:56 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: SJackson
It is not a question of elitism; it is a question of halacha. Pretty Gwyneth Paltrow is not really Jewish. Her mother, Blythe Danner, is a Quaker.

Maybe Gwyneth can convert and her kids can convert. That is what Dr. Laura did. And she also did it for her warrior son, Derek.

49 posted on 07/27/2011 6:09:08 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Stepan12

So is Gwyneth Paltrow a Quaker or a Gentile?


50 posted on 07/27/2011 6:12:07 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: SJackson
It is not a question of elitism; it is a question of halacha. Pretty Gwyneth Paltrow is not really Jewish. Her mother, Blythe Danner, is a Quaker.

Maybe Gwyneth can convert and her kids can convert. That is what Dr. Laura did. And she also did it for her warrior son, Derek.

51 posted on 07/27/2011 6:12:53 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

A real narrow rule is the Law of Moses ~ he who is born of a Jew is a Jew.


52 posted on 07/27/2011 6:13:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lysandru
Of course, Judaism is not monolithic either, is it?

If it ain't then I don't know what is....Let's see, there's G-d, Jahweh (and the various languages of that term), Lord. That's a whole bunch. I guess it is not monolithic after all.

53 posted on 07/27/2011 6:19:34 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: TaraP
If your father is Jewish and your mother is a gentile, des that mean your kids are gentiles?

Yes

Gene Simmons from Kiss is a Jew, the mother of his kids is a non-jew, I believe she says (Shannon Tweed) she does not believe in religion, although I don’t think she is an Atheist, so the kids are gentiles???

Yes, as a matter of law they are gentiles. As a practical matter, the more exposure one has to Judaism the easier it would be to convert if that were ever desired. In the case of Gene Simmons, he was born in Israel and speaks Hebrew. If he had taught his kids Hebrew and raised them to know how to practice the religion and celebrate the holidays then it would not be very difficult for them to convert.

54 posted on 07/27/2011 6:20:31 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: muawiyah

Yep. And they were repeatedly warned not to intermarry with those who did not descend from the 12 tribes, not because of lineage but because they would be led astray from the true faith to the heathen gods of the region.


55 posted on 07/27/2011 6:22:22 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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So is Gwyneth Paltrow a Quaker or a Gentile?

Unless she has converted, she is a gentile. Islam is passed down patrilineally (such as The Messiah who had a Muslim father), but Judaism is determined by the mother, matrilineally.

It was out of curiosity, I looked up Gwyneth's parents in Wikipedia. It is the matrilineal descent that determines the religion in Judaism.

56 posted on 07/27/2011 6:22:58 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Rudder
If it ain't then I don't know what is....Let's see, there's G-d, Jahweh (and the various languages of that term), Lord. That's a whole bunch. I guess it is not monolithic after all.

You missed my point. I didn't say "not monotheistic." I said, "not monolithic"-- as in the idea that you have diffrent forms of Judaism. Christians are not monolithic either-- you have different flavors. Amongst Jews, you have Reform Jews, Conservatives, and Orthodox to name three main branches. I about fell out of my chair a few months ago when I watched a video with a female rabbi-- clearly she was not of the Orthodox branch.

57 posted on 07/27/2011 6:24:42 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Jack Black
Granted that wouldn't really cover the Sammy Davis Jr. case, but those are vanishingly rare.

Sammy converted.



58 posted on 07/27/2011 6:27:03 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: TaraP
What would you consider a child born to a Jewish mother and father, but when the child was born the parents had converted to the Christian faith?

Both parents and the child are Jewish as a matter of law and would remain so until death. As a practical matter, if they stopped practicing, the transmission of Judaism would die with them.

59 posted on 07/27/2011 6:30:05 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: SJackson

An agnostic trying to raise her kids Jewish is like a donkey trying to give birth to chickens. Like so many super rich Hollywood script memorizers, she had her last real thought in high school.


60 posted on 07/27/2011 6:34:54 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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