[tobyhill]

I'm way beyond caring about defaults or downgrades. The only thing I care about right now is not handing Obama and the Rats any type of rhetorical victory. Make the Rats reject it and make them own it.

[tennmountainman]

Make the Rats reject it and make them own it.

What does that do to solve the coming destruction of this country?
Get a majority in the senate, only to have McLaim, Snowe, Lugar, Graham, McConnell etc tie it in knots again. U do remember the 14 Gangsters don’t u. We had a majority then too.

Hope is a good thing, but history does not support your approach.